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HAWAII COUNTY CHARTER COMMISSIONPage 40 of 104 <br />RAY: Yeah, but if they really operate as an independent contractor, more under the description -. <br />HERKES: They’d do the work. <br />HIGASHI: Yeah. <br />RAY: That Marni had -. <br />HERKES: Yeah. <br />RAY: You know, I mean if they’re operating with their own laptop and their own, you know, whatever, <br />right, you know, that’s an independent contractor. <br />YOSHIYAMA: Yeah. I checked with Civil Service Department, who would, you know, be like a <br />regulator for the County on independent contractors, and based upon, you know, what -, in the past, <br />okay, what past commissions have used their secretaries for, they said out-and-out, that’s not an <br />independent contractor. That would be an employee because -. <br />HERKES: I talked to Michael Ben, and he said that’s perfectly allowable. Is that your understanding, <br />Mr. Wurdeman? <br />WURDEMAN: Right, but -. <br />HERKES: If you stay under $45,000? <br />WURDEMAN: Most of the commissions, the permanent year-round -. <br />HERKES: Yeah. <br />WURDEMAN: Commissions do have an employee. <br />HERKES: But they’re permanent. <br />WURDEMAN: They’re permanent. <br />HERKES: We’re a year, one year from start to finish. <br />RAY: Yeah, so -. <br />HERKES: We got to leave a trail. <br />IRVINE: Most boards and commissions are under, administratively, some department at the County, and <br />I’m hearing that there is a position in the Mayor’s Office that was for the previous Charter Commission. <br />That was like not a contract position then, that was a County employee. <br />WURDEMAN: It’s an employee position. <br />YOSHIYAMA: Yeah. <br />WURDEMAN: It exists, but it’s not funded. <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 3-17-99.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />