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HAWAII COUNTY CHARTER COMMISSIONPage 11 of 37 <br />Mayor Akana had passed away, and that led directly to some suggestions about what-, and changes in <br />when you have a special election to fill a vacancy, when you wouldn’t have a special election. If the <br />period of time was quite short, you’d just let the Managing Director carry over until the next regular <br />election, those kind -, those are a couple of things. The budgeting things -. <br />BETHEA: Yeah. <br />YUEN: Had been a point of contention between the Council and the Mayor for several years before, and <br />that was a reason for trying to work on that. I agree with Bob that we didn’t -, the last Charter <br />Commission didn’t really solve that. And I don’t know, again, with a perspective of looking back on a <br />few years, the same kinds of issues still come up between the Mayor and the Council, and I think that <br />some of that is just inevitable in a government involving separation of powers and different power <br />centers -. <br />BETHEA: Yeah. <br />YUEN: Looking to assert their own authority. The Charter should be as clear as it can be, but there’s <br />always going to be some give and take on those things. So -, and I -, and probably there are things that <br />have come up in the last few years that are going to be part of the agenda and part of what the public <br />expects for this Charter Commission. <br />L’ORANGE: On the budget, I was very uncomfortable with it, and it seemed to me like a timing thing. <br />And the problem was that neither the administration or the County Council was willing to give us any <br />recommendation or to work together to work out a solution that worked. And we didn’t know anything <br />about the subject, really. But you know you got to wait until the State comes up with their thing and the <br />timing seemed pretty short. <br />BETHEA: Tight. <br />L’ORANGE: Tight between the State budget and the other. But we didn’t feel that anybody, at least I <br />didn’t. We knew there was a problem, but we didn’t know how to fix it, and neither the Administration <br />nor the County Council or the finance people gave us any recommendations that we could -. <br />BETHEA: Exactly, because we didn’t know, or the County wouldn’t know what it was going to get <br />from the legislature until the legislature was over, you know, what was going to come, so it was very <br />difficult for the County to plan. <br />There was, however, and I don’t quite have it in my grasp, another fundamental difference between the <br />counties, and that was how detailed the budget was, because that got into questions of what was the <br />authority of the Mayor to transfer funds within a department and this and that. Do you remember that, <br />Chris? And I think here we had a much more detailed budget than elsewhere, which kind of tied the <br />Mayor’s hands. There was a difference between transfers within a department and transfers between <br />different departments. In other words, the Council could pass a budget that is so detailed that the Mayor <br />can’t do anything; yellow pencils are $1,346 a month or something. I remember that being something <br />that at least it concerned me. And that raises one question is that if -, for those of you who are like me <br />and didn’t have much of an understanding of how the budget system works, I would really focus on <br />trying to get as much understanding about that as I could. <br />Tie one thing back to what Chris said, this whole thing about City Manager, get it out of the way quick, <br />one way or the other. You may really decide, after doing some reading about it, it’s something you want <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 5-12-99.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />