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HAWAII COUNTY CHARTER COMMISSIONPage 19 of 37 <br />information as we could from department heads, people in government, and the public, so that we could <br />understand what might be best suited for this County. We weren’t going out and just testing the wind <br />with the public. I don’t mean to say that -, I’m not implying that you don’t listen to the public, but I <br />don’t think that’s where the real source of information is going to come. You’re going to listen -. It’s <br />really understanding how County government works, how the budget works, all of this other types of <br />things, and then trying to figure out a methodology which best suits here. And so it’s like the average <br />person in the public, if they come up and testify, they don’t really -, they haven’t been exposed to, <br />hopefully, the volume of material that you’ve been exposed to. It’s the whole thing about representative <br />government. You’re supposed to spend some time and consider all of these and look at the various <br />alternatives and come up with a recommendation. And I think if you’ve done it right, that if people in <br />the public went through the same process you went through, they would probably have the same answer, <br />but they don’t have that answer initially. So that’s why without disrespecting the public, I felt that the <br />solutions are going to be generated by the discussions among yourselves based on the information which <br />you received, which includes the public, but it’s not the biggest portion of it. <br />L’ORANGE: Bob set the tone for our meetings, I think, my memory is getting jogged, is that we had to <br />educate ourselves. That was the most important thing we had to do. <br />BETHEA: Right. <br />L’ORANGE: We had to educate ourselves as to what was in the Charter. And we had some academic <br />types who came in with academic scenarios about different forms of government, not talking about <br />County of Hawaii but talking about -, I don’t remember who they were but I -. <br />BETHEA: John Van Dyke from the University Law School, I think. <br />YUEN: Uh huh, right. <br />BETHEA: We had some -, remember that? <br />BESS: Was that helpful? <br />L’ORANGE: Oh, yeah. <br />BESS: And was that early on before you even solicited any material from the government? <br />L’ORANGE: I think the Chair scheduled things as they were available. Wasn’t that sort of -? <br />BETHEA: I can’t remember. I can’t remember why we had John Van Dyke. We did have him in, didn’t <br />we? <br />YUEN: Uh huh. <br />BESS: Which raises the issue of, you know, like background material, and you’ve got four folders full <br />of stuff. How was that generated? What kind of staff did you have to help you in assembling that? Was <br />that your function, Chris, or -? <br />YUEN: Well, some of it is mine. There was a secretary that did -, would gather all the press clippings <br />and prepare the minutes, and I think, to some extent, I don’t remember who had gone and copied the <br />charters of the other counties, and somebody went and dug up some mainland material as well, and I’m <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 5-12-99.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />