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HAWAII COUNTY CHARTER COMMISSIONPage 21 of 41 <br />HERKES: A copy of Maui County’s budget and gave it to a couple of people in the County. I really <br />think that being able to relate what a service costs to the taxpayer is very important. It builds support for <br />that, but it also builds maybe a more efficient way of doing something and they can help do it. I really, <br />really want to know if there’s wording that we can insert or if there is wording that we can remove from <br />the County Charter that will make program budgeting more -, will heighten the awareness of program <br />budgeting, if we can make that more important to people, make people more aware of how well that <br />works rather than going back to the strict item, line item budget which just doesn’t tell anybody <br />anything. <br />TAKAHASHI: Well, I think -, I think there is a trend toward being more accountable, be more efficient, <br />because right now, even at the legislature, you know, they have a committee called Managed <br />Competition, and they’re charged with developing a process by where, you know, the government unit <br />will be compared with the private sector. But in that process, there is also this requirement that a costing <br />th <br />element be developed. And from that, you know, I have a State official coming in on June 7 to present <br />to us a costing model, not necessarily meaning that that will be the model, but it could possibly be -. <br />HERKES: An example. <br />TAKAHASHI: The model. Everybody needs to know what it costs to deliver services so, you know, we <br />are taking measures toward developing costing. <br />HERKES: So if you see items in the County Charter that can further that or things that we can work <br />toward, I’d sure appreciate your point them out to us. <br />TAKAHASHI: Fine. <br />RAY: Okay. Other questions? I have a couple comments. Harry, in regard to the qualifications for the <br />Finance Director and the Deputy Finance Director, that’s, by the way, on Page 28. It’s not in the chapter <br />on Department of Finance, but it’s at the top of Page 28, those qualifications that are in the Charter now. <br />Do you have any comment on those, if they’re sufficient, in your mind? <br />TAKAHASHI: Yeah, I believe -, you know, this would just be the minimum qualifications that you’d <br />expect someone to have, and then the final decision really rests with the Council, you know, whether <br />they feel the person can -, is the right candidate for the job or not. <br />RAY: Okay. And then one other thing, this whole question of internal auditing. You know, my sense is <br />that, you know, we’re going to have a very lengthy, somewhat controversial discussion around this <br />whole area of mandatory program reviews because they are really problematic from a, you know, <br />realistic, functional standpoint for the County right now, and we’ve already gotten input from, you <br />know, several departments in regard to that as far as, you know, what’s realistic. So I just want to alert <br />you that I think we’re going to need some real help with that in terms of, you know, making a case to the <br />general public as far as, you know, what’s realistic and what’s, you know, sufficient, and what’s <br />reasonable and what’s responsible if we decide to make a change to that, so we are going to need a lot of <br />help with that, I think. Okay. Any other questions for -? <br />IRVINE: I forgot one thing. Quite often we’ve been without a Deputy Finance Director; at this point, we <br />have one in place. <br />TAKAHASHI: Yeah. <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 5-19-99.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />