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Page 3 of 11 <br />possibility of the Commission entertaining the idea of doing away with the Office of Mayor and <br />personally, I think this is strangely timed and - <br />RAY: Can I interject one thing? Those reports were incorrect. The Charter Commission has not <br />discussed anything in Commission yet. Individually, different Charter Members have discussed with the <br />press some things they are interested in individually but the Charter Commission has not taken up, <br />entertained, discussed any of those to this point so I just want to make sure you understand that, okay? <br />DAWN: Okay, so it hasn’t been - <br />RAY: So none of that’s on the table. Those were all just possibilities. <br />DAWN: This would of course, involve a special election and I’m wondering where the money would <br />come from for that. I think it would be a very unpopular idea. <br />RAY: The context we discussed a special election in was the sort of "what if" scenarios. What if we <br />were to come up with changes to the Charter that we thought might be substantive enough to warrant a <br />special election. If that were to be the case, when would you have to, what would be the triggers to hold <br />the special election, when would it have to be held, how would that affect the year 2000 election, so it <br />was just purely in that context. Kind of the "what ifs" to try to answer some of those questions and we <br />didn’t get all those answers by any means. <br />DAWN: It seems like it would be, if the idea was entertained, would be just to somehow railroad the <br />2000 election and be some pretty shady politics according to the public. Anyway, that’s the main thing <br />I’m worried about is that happening. The other ideas sound fairly innocuous but being that the present <br />administration’s time’s up, the eight year time limit for the Mayor and we’re looking at new <br />representation, just even to entertain the idea of railroading that possibility with doing away with the <br />Office of Mayor so the same power group, you know, can appoint a new guy as part of the same power <br />group, the old power group - <br />RAY: Well, just to interject there - <br />DAWN: This wouldn’t go over. <br />RAY: There again and my understanding is, the way that works is the County Council would actually <br />hire the Managing Director so it wouldn’t be that old power group, it would be the County Council <br />would actually - <br />DAWN: Well, you have the existing power group deciding the outcome of the 2000 election. There’s <br />got to be some kind of illegality in that, sir. A flood of law suits. Anyway, that’s about it. That’s all I <br />want to know. <br />RAY: Okay, thank you. Del Pranke. <br />PRANKE: I’m sorry I didn’t get these to you before but there are just four pages that will help <br />illuminate. What I want to talk about is a contradiction in the County Charter in conjunction with the <br />Hawaii Sunshine Law and the section of the County Charter that I want to talk about is 13-20(b). I <br />assume you all have a copy of the Charter so I didn’t copy that. I find that on page 30 of the - <br />RAY: Page 30? <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 6-16-99.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />