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Page 5 of 12 <br />HERKES: We are the only county that does not have nonpartisan election now so you probably are right <br />that there’s some move in that direction in the state. Also, in a Managing Director, would you be willing <br />to pay a Managing Director about $200,000 a year because that’s what they cost? <br />LAWSON: You know, this is a question that I know is on everyone’s mind and I’m here to tell you that <br />I believe you pay the going rate. For that, you demand accountability and in that, you get efficiency in <br />the rest of government. <br />HERKES: A couple of more questions. Okay, thank you. Department of Human Services: It’s now as <br />you expressed, under the County Council with the Economic Development and Human Affairs <br />Committee. Would you leave it under there or would you put it as a separate department under the <br />Administration? It’s under the Legislative Branch now. Would you leave it under the Legislative Branch <br />or put it under the Administration Branch where most of the other departments are? <br />LAWSON: That’s why I told you I was in a quandary about it. I don’t have an answer to that. <br />HERKES: Okay. Well, I just wondered what you thought would work better. I’m not sure either. I was <br />curious. <br />LAWSON: This will tip my number here. I certainly at this point, wouldn’t want to see it put under <br />Administration. <br />HERKES: Okay. And what about any other counties that have a Department of Human Service? Do you <br />know any other ones that have a Department of Human Services? Do you know if - <br />LAWSON: Well, Honolulu is the Personnel Department, whatever that is. <br />RAY: Maui County has a Department of Housing and Human Services so it’s not really a straight <br />comparison. <br />HERKES: I just wondered if there was somewhere we could go for information. I don’t care about <br />copying things. I just would like to see one that works and see how it works. <br />LAWSON: If that’s an invitation, I’ll get you some websites. <br />HERKES: Okay. Good. And the other thing I’d like to say, for your information but also for George’s, <br />that in 2002 we will have a special election because we will have a special election after our census and <br />we’ll have an election in 2000 and then we’ll have an election in 2002 that probably will not affect the <br />Mayors races because they are island wide but it will affect all the Senators and Representatives that are <br />elected by vote. <br />LAWSON: And that just solidifies my feeling is that there is some mechanism short of waiting four <br />years. <br />HERKES: There is. Every ten years. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Chairman. <br />RAY: Kevin. <br />BALOG: Just one question with the Managing Director vs. Executive Branch. So you’re saying you’d <br />be comfortable having a majority of a council, nine people, which could be only five out of nine people, <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 6-23-99.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />