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minutes 8-25-99Page 27 of 60 <br />no paper and then the room goes silent and so I don’t know if people would accept <br />that and I don’t know if a Special Charter Election would be the place to try it <br /> <br />out. I would probably have to recommend against that at this time. <br /> <br />RAY: I want to ask our attorney to make some comments. <br />YUEN: Just briefly on this question of procedures that George Martin was asking <br />about. There are some State laws on elections that do apply to any kind of County <br />election, including a Special Election. And these are things like; you have to <br />register voters, signing the poll book, availability to vote at a precinct, the <br />availability of casting absentee ballots. A lot of the things you see in the <br />elections that you voted in. The State law does not specify the mechanical system of <br />voting. That, I guess, has just been done by the State Elections Administrator, has <br />picked a system in the past and if the County wanted to buy it’s own equipment to <br />actually cast and count the ballots. That is up to the County but there are some <br /> <br />procedures that would have to be followed in any Charter Special Election. <br /> <br />RAY: Marni. <br />HERKES: I notice that the last figures we have available are from 1979 and I also <br />notice that there are, in the private sector anyway, were some fairly extensive <br />improvements in communication tools since 1979. This is 20 years ago we’re talking <br />about and I think that there are ways, when we’re dealing with time lines, that <br />there are lots of different ways that this process doesn’t have to take so long, and <br />I’d like to investigate some of those ways. I think that Mr. Konishi’s question, <br />when he goes out and asks, is probably several years old and I think that Lions <br />Clubs are probably not the best place to ask a computerized question but I think <br />you’ll find a lot of groups, Rotary Clubs included, who feel comfortable with a <br />computerized voting system. They don’t feel comfortable when there are discrepancies <br />in counting them but they do feel comfortable without paper because we’re all <br />looking to do things that way, and I think that there’s a change in people’s <br />attitudes to different ways of doing things and I certainly would encourage the <br />Elections Division to do that, but that’s not saying that I’m in favor of a Special <br /> <br />Election. It’s just that I am in favor of looking at different ways of doing it. <br /> <br />RAY: John. <br />SANTANGELO: For me, my litmus test is the integrity. Sounds like you can print <br />things and sounds like you can get the stuff out. Looks like there’s a price tag <br />attached to it. So for me, our lawyer brought up some of the points that were <br />germane to me. You’ve got to be able to register voters. You’ve got to be able to at <br />least know that you’ve got the people voting that are legitimate voters, legal, and <br />that’s a whole process unto itself. And I can see how you would not want to have to <br />duplicate that, especially with the Presidential one coming but I do believe that <br />problems have solutions and if we decided to have one, I think you could deal with <br />it. What I want to hear, though, is we should have an overpowering reason for a <br />Special Election because this is going to be an extreme cost. I look at this money <br />and I see about six or eight police officers. There’s just other things we could do <br />with that money that seem to be on a higher priority list with me at this point. But <br />for this Commission to decide, it would seem to me, that we would want to have <br />something that was overpowering that the public would want to deal with this prior <br />to the next election. And so for us to decide that, I think it’s important for us to <br />know what are the real obstacles and not - you know, liars use facts and facts go <br />with liars - just real, real straight forward. It is a lot of work but like what <br />Chris brought up, some of the side bars on the other parts of elections, it seems <br />rather cumbersome. Is there other things that you could give us so that if we were <br />to consider this, and we’re not considering it now, then we’d really know what we <br /> <br />were laying on the public? <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 8-25-99.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />