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HAWAII COUNTY CHARTER COMMISSIONPage 14 of 51 <br />TANAKA: I know that our department is a proponent of this and the Commissioners, the majority, <br />decided to not support it so I’m in a strange predicament too. <br />RAY: George. <br />MARTIN: It’s difficult at times, I can see, and I’ve been in a position you’re in right now. On the <br />position of the other cap, if it were to be implemented, do you think it would work? <br />BALOG: Personally. <br />MARTIN: I said, with the other cap on. Take it for what it’s worth. <br />TANAKA: I think so, except that the one point that was brought up about the long range planning, and <br />how it really integrates with having to be in a day to day process so you know what’s going on. You get <br />the feedback from the community and so forth. I guess if there were, and I know if this happens, the <br />staff from Planning Department will be transferred, yes? So, yes, with the proper training, with the <br />proper selection of personnel going over, I think it could work, and with the proper people staying back <br />to watch both sides, the long term planning as well as the day to day responses, yes. <br />RAY: Just remember, this is our next agenda item and we’re going to have Planning Department and <br />Public Works in and continue this discussion. Marni. <br />HERKES: I just wanted to say, was there discussion in the Planning Commission about, say, the next <br />five years, or were they dealing with what’s happened in the last five years? Because what we see is not <br />much has happened in the last five years. What’s going to happen in the next five years is probably <br />going to be very different. The Counties in the State are working very diligently on solving the <br />duplication of services. They are also working on reducing regulations, encouraging more <br />comprehensive planning, and the State Land Use planning, and things happening with Act 164 and they <br />are trying to move the Commissions into making decisions. Was there discussion in that venue? Because <br />when we’re talking about Charter changes, we’re talking about the future. We’re not talking about the <br />past. We’re not talking about the fact that they haven’t set policies. We’re talking about setting up a <br />system where they have to set policies, where they have to do some planning, and how they make their <br />program measurements fit. So, when you’re looking at the kinds of changes that are probably going to <br />come in the next five years, this position doesn’t make much sense to me. I’m sorry, but I’m having a <br />real problem with those reactive stance rather than a proactive stance, I suppose. <br />TANAKA: I can agree to that. Again, if I’m wearing an outsider’s hat, certainly agree with that. I guess <br />my only comment to that is the question was posed to me, as a contractor, and being very familiar with <br />the permitting process, I know what it’s like. You’re having to run around the Building Department or <br />the County Building to the different agencies and then you’ve got to go over to Fire and you got to go <br />over to Department of Health, so yes, this would reduce all of that. That time will become more efficient <br />and perhaps, some of the Members are just not familiar with the process, and have these other concerns <br />that brought it to that point. <br />HERKES: Yes, thank you. <br />RAY: All right, thank you, Mr. Tanaka. <br />TANAKA: Thank you. <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 9-29-99.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />