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minutes 10-13-99Page 26 of 31 <br />BALOG: Right, but you’d like the chance, if something arose, like what was the example given? <br />OKABE: To be independent, in a sense that we’re not trying to micromanage. That is not our role. The <br />Commission is not to micromanage, so we do not get involved in promotions or anything like that. We <br />are civilian review, where the civilians will come to the Commission if they have a complaint on the <br />Police Department or a police officer. If they have a complaint on a police officer, they bring that <br />complaint to the Police Commission’s office, and the Commission then reviews the information they <br />were given from the police officer, and from the civilian, and if the officer should ask for legal counsel, <br />the Police Commission can, or will not, grant approval of legal counsel. And we also have investigative <br />powers so that we can ask for investigation to bring to the Commission to see if there are any charges <br />that are substantial. But that is our main role, not to micromanage the Police Department. <br />BALOG: I’ve got a question then, if you could take back to the Commission, why they wanted to <br />change that portion. What example? There must have been an example they discussed when they <br />proposed that Amendment to the Charter, if you don’t mind. <br />OKABE: Okay. <br />BALOG: Thank you. <br />RAY: Marni. <br />HERKES: That same question came up from the Corporation Counsel and I think we have to somehow <br />deal with it, and would you take it back to the Police Department, that somehow we have to deal with <br />this because once it disappears, and, it’s my understanding the Police Commission handles the <br />investigation, and then it is referred to the Police Department, and it disappears. Nothing comes back to <br />the public and that’s a concern, so I’d appreciate it if you’d take that back to Chief Carvalho. Tell him <br />that is a concern. We’ve heard it three or four times in this kind of process, and it may not be something <br />that even is appropriate for the Charter. It’s a process that is broken somehow, so it needs to somehow <br />be solved, and I understand there’s confidentiality, there’s a lot of different civil liberties that can be <br />breached, but there’s got to be a solution to it somehow. And I want to tell each of you, in our major <br />overall goal that we’re doing here, we’re liable to end up with a whole new document, a whole new <br />Charter. To simplify, to make it more accountable, Program Review, a lot of different things that are <br />more accountable to the public, that the public will feel more comfortable with. For instance, we’ve got <br />the County Band in the County Charter. There’s a whole bunch of things like that, that over the last 20 <br />years, have kind of been inserted because there was some very emotional vocal testimony for it. So <br />when we’re looking at this, we’re trying to look at it as a clean slate, like throw out the whole thing and <br />go back and say how do you really want to do this. When you look at a simpler, more effective <br />governance for public safety, I’m really attracted to a Public Safety Commission. One that will protect <br />me. One that’ll protect me in civil defense. One that will protect me in the police. One that will protect <br />me in the fire, and I’m the major recipient of government actions, so I’m looking at it from a client’s <br />standpoint rather than from a Commission standpoint. What’s going to work best for me. So, I haven’t <br />seen any testimony in favor of Public Safety Commissions, in fact, we’ve had quite a bit against. But I’d <br />like you to kind of look at what will work best from my standpoint, rather than working best from who <br />appoints it, from working best how it looks, or from an emotional standpoint, is what’s going to protect <br />me the best. What’s going to be the most effective governance tool that we can use, and you kind of <br />have to wipe out the slate and not read the Charter, and kind of look at it from a different standpoint than <br />what is there now. So, I’d appreciate it if each of you would come back with some kind of - <br />MAHUNA: Just some clarification on that. <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 10-13-99.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />