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minutes 10-27-99Page 26 of 48 <br />respond back to the Commission, to allow the Commission to know that we have taken action. But at the <br />present time, because of the 92F Statute, which says that all disciplinary action is subject to personal <br />privacy interest, especially County law enforcement police officers, you cannot divulge that personal <br />information. That would be in violation of 92F Statute, with the exception of a discharge of an <br />employee. Only after that employee has gone through the entire grievance process and arbitration <br />process., then you can release that individual’s name. And so that’s the area we’re working on right now <br />to determine, with Corporation Counsel’s assistance, whether or not that discipline can be mentioned to <br />the Police Commission. But, I’ll entertain any questions if you have any. <br />RAY: Okay. Mr. Martin. <br />MARTIN: One, a brief one, if I may. You made mention early on in your statement about the make-up <br />of the Commission being an entity outside of your own body. <br />CORREA: That’s correct. <br />MARTIN: Now, if this body is the one doing the investigation, shouldn’t you then have some variance <br />from that 92F, that you mentioned, about keeping it confidential, because they’re the ones starting the <br />investigation. They’re the ones proceeding with it, with their own investigator. Once it’s upheld or not, <br />and if it is, and some disciplinary action is taken, I think there should be some rule, or something, that <br />says okay, it’s not us doing it, it’s outside so therefore, they should have the ability to find out. Just to <br />suffice, I think, what Mr. Wurdeman is saying. <br />CORREA: Let me just say that the Charter states that the Police Commission shall review; consider, <br />review complaints, and make a report to the Chief of Police. It doesn’t say that they shall discipline. <br />MARTIN: Maybe a misstatement. The discipline would be part and parcel of the department. I’m not <br />saying that the Commission would have that right. All I’m saying, if there were to be any disciplinary <br />action taken, that they would be notified of it, and I don’t know in detail, but yes - <br />CORREA: Yes, that’s the area that we’re working on right now. Because, in essence, when you look at <br />the functions under the 92F, another agency can have the information, as long as it meets the necessary <br />functions and duties of the agency. Then we are authorized to release that information. But if the duties <br />and functions of the Police Commission do not meet the conditions of releasing that information, then <br />we are actually prohibited by law, and we want to comply, and we want to meet the conditions of the <br />Police Commission, but we want to also stand on legal grounds, so that we’re not subjected to any kind <br />of civil liability, or any kind of illegal activity. <br />WURDEMAN: But the citizen, who’s the one probably most interested in knowing what happened, <br />under existing law, he never finds out. <br />HERKES: Mr. Ray. <br />RAY: Wait, let me finish with Mr. Martin. <br />MARTIN: Thank you, sir. With that, and I direct it now to you, Mr. Wurdeman, by removing this <br />passage, and I believe that’s what I’m hearing you say to do, is it not possible for us to put something in <br />here that would now either make them, and I hate to say force them to do something, but work in <br />conjunction with the Union, it’s rules, and the rules of the department too? <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 10-27-99.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />