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minutes 12-04-99Page 18 of 39 <br />HIGASHI: Getting away from the subject. <br />RAY: Let’s finish it though. <br />HIGASHI: Not the subject, but, I just get bothered by when we say we need to have somebody from outside; we need a <br />certain level of expertise. I think it should be written where people around here could qualify. <br />RAY: I’m not saying you have to bring somebody from outside. <br />HIGASHI: Well, it’s mentioned time and time again that we have this certain level of expectation, or education level. I’d go <br />for it if it’s something reasonable that a lot of our local people who have done it in the past, returning. I think Bill Davis is <br />doing a good job. <br />RAY: But Bill Davis has no experience in solid waste, and wastewater, and so many of these areas, and anybody else that’s a <br />qualified City Manager, just routinely deals with these things. And we don’t have anybody in County government that knows <br />anything about solid waste. Nobody. <br />HIGASHI: I’m not knocking that point. Fine. But I don’t think it’s that level where they’re in the operational standpoint. <br />They’re overseeing, they’re professionals. In the Public Works Department, it’s a professional, and who we hire there is <br />important. He should be versed in solid waste, and I don’t think the City Manager would be in the operational part. <br />RAY: Oh, I disagree. <br />HIGASHI: I think he’s a management position. So anyway, I don’t want to argue with that, but I don’t think we should be <br />looking at people who are away. <br />RAY: I’d just like to allow for that opportunity. Marni. <br />HERKES: I agree with Roland, that there’s a lot of people around Hawaii with qualifications, and when somebody comes to <br />work for our organization, one of the qualifications is that they know the area. They have to know the people. They have to <br />know the geography, and they have to know the politics because they can’t answer questions unless they know where the <br />resources are. So, I think that’s one of the things that you don’t say, you have to live here, but you say you have to know the <br />area, and you have to know what’s going on, and you have to know who the people are and what happens. But I think in the <br />Managing Director’s capability; we talked about this in the Department of Public Works, not necessarily not having a Chief <br />Engineer but having an Administrator. I feel the same way about the Managing Director type. She needs to be able to manage <br />contracts. She needs to be able to manage outsourcing. She needs to understand financing. We really need to have somebody <br />that understands management, and I don’t think anybody in the world understands solid waste. Even people that are in it. But <br />the contracting of the people is the important part. <br />RAY: John. <br />SANTANGELO: We covered it pretty well, but back to what you said, Steve. When the Mayor can select whom he wants, <br />regardless of sexual preference, and the Council approves, it’s having those qualifications that the Council can then hold <br />accountable, and have a reason for rejection, and not rejection of an individual, but of the qualifications. So checks and <br />balances come in, and again, I think we start to level the playing field, so I like that idea. Removing residency does not <br />mutually exclude people who are here. <br />HIGASHI: No, I understand that. <br />SANTANGELO: It just opens the gene pool. I kind of like that idea. Thank you. <br />RAY: George. <br />MARTIN: I happen to agree with Roland, in that the local population has the ability to do what needs to be done, and I’ll use <br />personal experience. As a mechanic, and being in the field for about 25 years, if I need to know something on a newer <br />system, I go see some of the younger people who just came out of college, and they have hands-on ability to do it. And the <br />point I’m trying to bring up is we have people coming out of our universities right now, within the State, and within the <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 12-04-99.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />