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minutes 12-08-99Page 8 of 31 <br />IRVINE: Now, it did say previously that no individual, or the Commission, as a whole, would do that, right? <br />J. HERKES: Administratively. That we would not interfere with the daily administration. <br />IRVINE: Yes, so I had the feeling that you were, therefore, asking for permission to dive into the administrative matters. <br />J. HERKES: Oh, I’m sorry. Read this as ‘no individual member of the Commission shall interfere in any way with the <br />administrative affairs of the department except for purposes of inquiry.’ <br />IRVINE: But the Commission, as a whole, could therefore, interfere? <br />J. HERKES: Oh no, I’m sorry. <br />IRVINE: Okay, because I think that’s what’s in the Honolulu Charter, and is it in ours also right now? <br />BESS: Yes, it’s in (f). <br />J. HERKES: Under (f)? <br />BESS: Yes. <br />IRVINE: Neither the Commission nor its members, and that means the Commission, as a whole, and the members. I thought <br />you were asking for permission for the Commission. <br />J. HERKES: No, not at all. Just to make broad policy, because right now, it’s not coming from us, so I don’t know where it’s <br />coming from. I really don’t. <br />IRVINE: All right. This language is better than yours, I would say, on making it clear that the Commission doesn’t want to <br />be involved in administration. <br />J. HERKES: I’m sorry. That’s correct. <br />IRVINE: Well, I’m glad. <br />RAY: Gary. <br />YOSHIYAMA: I heard your example, and I also think I heard a crossing over between setting general policy and legislative <br />positions. I think you used that interchangeably. Can you give me some examples of general policy that you’re talking about? <br />J. HERKES: Broad policy? <br />YOSHIYAMA: Yes, broad policy. Not legislative, not in the legislative area, unless it’s the same thing. <br />J. HERKES: Such as reviewing the annual budget. That, perhaps, when we’re reviewing the budget, though the budget may <br />reflect that more monies may be needed for a certain project, and not for another, that the Commission be able to give its <br />views as to, perhaps, for our County, our districts, that our money should be used more wisely in another area. And that <br />would be policy making, so it’s part of policy decision, not administrative decision. <br />YOSHIYAMA: The Police Department has general orders, and it may sound like some of the things in there is policy. Were <br />you referring to that, any matters contained in the general orders? <br />J. HERKES: No. <br />RAY: Let’s just go on around. Steve, anything? <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 12-08-99.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />