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minutes 01-15-00Page 8 of 59 <br />headed? <br />HERKES: How does Chris feel about that? Do you need a vote, Chris? Would you feel more comfortable? <br />YUEN: No, I think it’s all right at this stage. I think that people are interested, and you can always vote. <br />RAY: I’d rather not vote today. It’s just, kind of, caught me off guard. I’m not sure just where we’re heading. I’d like to see it <br />shape up a little bit. <br />HERKES: I think rather than mentioning managed competition or privatization, which are buzz words, we’d like to look at <br />partnerships that will make this work; public and private partnerships. <br />HIGASHI: Again, I think we’re getting into managing the operation itself. The concept of the Charter is to have broad <br />language in there which allow responsible people to develop programs. <br />YUEN: I would say that you don’t want the Charter to be an obstacle toward how things are implemented. If you leave it <br />open in the Charter, then whatever is legal under whatever changes might be made in the next few years, then can be put into <br />place. If you put that you’re supposed to emphasize a certain form, and that’s not where the State legislation goes in the <br />future, then you’ve stuck yourself into a corner again. It’s for the people that put it into effect to determine what is going to <br />be the most efficient at the time; maybe all private operators; maybe they decide they want to go municipal; but one way or <br />the other, this has got to last for a while. <br />RAY: John. <br />SANTANGELO: Chris, so say this department’s put in; we create that; it’s on the ballot; it’s passed, as ordained by <br />ordinance. Then, that would be the Executive and Legislative that would bang that out, and it would be a public process, and <br />Council members would all get - <br />YUEN: Right, because there has to be some Council authorization when positions are moved back and forth, anyway. That’s <br />when that would happen, as to exactly what bodies, when. Because when you talk about reorganizations, we’re not talking <br />here about something that would result in the County hiring 40 new people. We’re talking about something that moves a line <br />of people from the Department of Public Works into another organization, and there’s going to be ordinances involved, and <br />there’s going to be funding to pay for all these people going over there. So, there has to be cooperation in the future. Even if <br />we mandated it in the Charter, that there has to be this split, then actually, which people go over and which lines in the <br />department, that’s still going to be worked out later with the Council and the Mayor. <br />SANTANGELO: Thank you. <br />RAY: Isn’t that kind of the approach we’re taking with this Division of Permitting? In other words, making a change in the <br />Charter to enable the Administration to come forth with a proposal, and then they work it out? <br />YUEN: That’s right. To take all the obstacles in the Charter away from reorganizing within the County Government so that <br />the Council and the Mayor, who are, actually every day in the building, trying to get the job done, are never going to be stuck <br />by something in the Charter. <br />RAY: Sue. <br />IRVINE: I thought there was some move to reconsider that business about permitting. Was that not true? We voted to accept <br />the proposal by the Planning Department to move it. Did we change our mind on that later? <br />RAY: Yes. <br />IRVINE: Okay. <br />RAY: We decided, rather than us mandating, we would remove language so that the Administration could come forth with <br />that proposal and then the same process would take place. <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 01-15-00.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />