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minutes 02-05-00Page 19 of 66 <br />YUEN: Yes, if we just said Department Heads and a Deputy, the ones who would not be included would be the County <br />Physicians, and the Safety Coordinator, the Band Director, and the Legislative Auditor I have to put a question mark because <br />the Charter, as I wrote a letter to you, does not say that there is such a thing as a Legislative Auditor’s Office. It just says <br />there’s a Legislative Auditor, but why don’t we leave that like that’s a question mark because there’s a discussion about <br />formalizing what the office is and does, and in that case, it would be a Director and would be covered by the salary <br />ordinance. <br />RAY: Gary. <br />YOSHIYAMA: I don’t recall where the Director of Office of Aging and Harry Kim, Civil Defense - I don’t know if they <br />were converted from Civil Service to non-Civil Service type positions. To me, it’s something similar to the Housing and <br />Community Development being in the Mayor’s Office, this kine. But in any case, I take it that Mike Ben and Barry Mizuno <br />are going to attend our next meeting. <br />RAY: Yes, I’m glad you brought that up. We have requested they attend next Wednesday’s meeting. It would probably be <br />good to get their input on this. Maybe we should table this until then. <br />IRVINE: Okay, John, one other question. What about all the Mayor’s Executive Assistants? Are they not - Kokubun, this <br />kind of thing - Is this just the Mayor’s discretion? <br />RAY: He’s the Deputy Planning Director. But anyway, no they wouldn’t be covered under this. <br />YUEN: No, they’re not covered under Mike Ben’s proposal. Positions in the Office of the Mayor, Marcia Reynolds, people <br />like that, are Civil Service exempt but they’re in a pay plan that’s approved by the Council. <br />RAY: Let’s everybody just think this thing through and then we’ll get some input from Mike on Wednesday and, hopefully, <br />we can move it forward. My sense is that we’re going to approve something, it’s just a question of what. <br />Managing Director, and this was the thing I addressed more in the memo that I sent out, and what I did, of the <br />recommendation, was two things: (1) looking at a total reorganization of the Executive Branch of government, along the lines <br />of Maui County. And, basically, what Maui does is they have a section that generally describes the Executive Branch, <br />generally describes the Mayor, but then all the departments are listed under one section, and they just have the Managing <br />Director at the top of that section, the Department of Management, at the top of the list. So that’s the reorganizational part of <br />it. So I called Chris and said, as far as the way they lump everything, including sections that have Boards and Commissions, <br />is there any problem there. I don’t believe there is if that’s the way Maui County’s been doing it for years. And then, the <br />thought there is that it just doesn’t change the powers of the Mayor and the Managing Director. It just puts it in a more <br />logical sequence where it seemed like he’s the key management person. And then in the last page of the memo I sent out, that <br />has specific language on the Department of Management, this is language, sort of a hybrid of Maui County, City and County, <br />and the Lexington Charter. So, under Organization, it says there’ll be a Department of Management, consisting of a <br />Managing Director and the necessary staff. And then under the actual Managing Director, the significant language, or <br />expansion, there is that ‘shall be appointed by the Mayor and confirmed by the Council’ and then as far as the job <br />qualifications, this is language taken out of a couple of Charters, including Lexington, that we had talked about; five years of <br />experience in an administrative capacity, and shall possess demonstrable educational and/or professional experience in the art <br />and science of government management as required by such office. I was just throwing it out for discussion. <br />Powers, duties and functions. I’d say the significant ones that are included there that are a little bit different are (c), that the <br />managing director would recommend to the Mayor the annual operating and capital improvement budgets. It just puts him <br />more in that process. And then the section (d), I think, is mostly lifted out of City and County in terms of oversight on <br />reviewing all the departments and it also has an inclusion that says ‘make reports to the Mayor and the Council’. I included <br />that to tie that in a little more. And then this language about Commissions, I lifted out, and that seemed to be applicable if we <br />have Commissions and lumping everything together, that you tie in the Managing Director to these Boards and Commissions <br />as far as those oversight functions. And (e), (f), (g) and (h) are identical. There was nothing in there. So, I think the big <br />choices are do we want to organize it this way, and then, as far as powers of the Managing Director, or appointments, do we <br />want it confirmed by the Council. How do we want to describe the position, and then do we want to spell out the fiscal <br />responsibilities the way they are more in (d) where it says more of an oversight for management and performance. While <br />we’re on this, and I hope this is not out of order to take it up, is after I sent this out, I was going through the Maui County <br />Charter and became intrigued by a Commission that they have, and it’s on page 22 of the Maui County Charter, and this is a <br />Cost of Government Commission they have in Maui County. I’m just bringing that up because it’s all, sort of, the same <br />subject of oversight and how all this works. So that’s something we might want to consider, and I chatted with a couple of <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 02-05-00.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />