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minutes 02-09-00Page 19 of 41 <br />RAY: So, what’s the cut if it read as Maui County Charter reads? It just says ‘elected officials, appointed Directors and <br />Deputy Directors’. <br />BEN: It would be four physicians, Band Director, Safety. That brings it to six. And the next question you need to wrestle <br />with is County Clerk, Deputy County Clerk, Legislative Auditor. <br />SANTANGELO: Well, that’s their own people. <br />BEN: And that would bring it up to 9. I just can’t think of the Department Heads right off hand. I just wanted to make one <br />caution. Don’t rely on the term ‘Department’ and ‘Deputy Department Heads’. We do have an Office of Housing. It’s not <br />identified as a Department so I don’t want that to slip through the crack. It is a position appointed by the Mayor. <br />IRVINE: Our attorney did say that would be covered. Aren’t the County Clerk and the Clerk’s Office - I mean, that’s a <br />Department in the County. <br />YUEN: There’s a way to write this that would include all those people. The Charter says the Clerk is basically treated like a <br />Department Head. The Legislative Auditor, I have to check on what that is. Of course, we have a proposal now that would <br />change that and would make it - We could write it so it included all those people. The Safety Coordinator, I think, is arguably <br />a gray, - Depending on how you worded it, you could word it to cover the Safety Coordinator, and that’s another one where <br />we took a vote to put the Safety Coordinator in the Civil Service Department, but you don’t know whether that’s going to <br />pass. If that goes to the voters and it’s left as it is, we could write it in a way that the Safety Coordinator gets covered by this <br />Department Head thing. The ones that are definitely not a Department Head, that you couldn’t put it under just the umbrella <br />of some blanket coverage, would be the physicians and the Band. <br />RAY: Michael, the physicians and the Band, do you know directly when the salaries of those have been brought forth in <br />recent time? I don’t recall. <br />BEN: Any proposed increases did include all of these positions because the proposal took the form of an increase in the <br />Executive Pay Plan itself. <br />RAY: Okay. Gary. <br />YOSHIYAMA: Just so I get this straight. We have an Executive Pay Plan, and then we have, for everyone else, is under a <br />separate pay plan, excluding elected, if we call employees, whether appointed or not. Put it another way. If we cover this, <br />everybody is covered. <br />BEN: Well, I don’t know what you mean by ‘covered’. Everybody is under something right now. We’re saying remove it <br />under this very political process and put it under something else. <br />YOSHIYAMA: Is there another group that’s got to go before the Council? <br />BEN: Yes. Their own employees. There’s a pay plan for Council Aides. There’s two other pay plans for employees <br />specifically within the Council. But other than the Council employees - In fact, some of our Council employees are covered <br />by our Civil Service Plans. <br />YOSHIYAMA: Right, okay. <br />SANTANGELO: Just a couple positions. <br />YUEN: But also, Deputies in the Corp Counsel’s Office - <br />BEN: They’re under a separate plan not subject to Council approval. There was a change in the ordinance that gave the <br />Corporation Counsel and the Prosecuting Attorney the power to establish the salaries for their Deputies. <br />YUEN: I wasn’t aware of that. <br />SANTANGELO: When was that, Ben? <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 02-09-00.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />