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minutes 02-09-00Page 28 of 41 <br />YOSHIYAMA: Yes, sounds good. <br />RAY: Okay, let’s get back to the agenda. Environmental Department. Do we have anything to cover on that? Are we clear? <br />IRVINE: I think we pretty much covered it. In going over my notes, folks from the County, the Department of Public Works, <br />and whatnot, have asked for a Commission to help them set sewer rates. And the Council has punted this one just like they <br />punt salaries, and I don’t know, should we make any mention of that being the body that would do that, or are we just going <br />to forget about that for now? <br />RAY: I think that, obviously, that will be a major focus of the Commission that’s attached to that department, but they won’t <br />be empowered to set the rate. They’ll be empowered to recommend them. I mean that’s a given, I’m sure. <br />IRVINE: Okay. <br />RAY: But I don’t think that that’s on the floor to empower a Commission. I mean it’s something we discussed. <br />SANTANGELO: I don’t know that we can do that unless it’s like with the Water, it’s semi-autonomous. I don’t know that <br />we can usurp the Legislative Branch with something like that, so it’s an advisory - <br />RAY: So my understanding is that it’s just an advisory Commission but I’m sure that’s one of the things they’ll address. And <br />we may get more input to change our minds. <br />Department of Public Safety. I think we’ve put that behind us. <br />Fire Commission, we voted on. <br />Police Commission. There was talk tonight, and I’m just not sure where we went with that as far as language from the Fire <br />Commission. <br />HERKES: I made a motion on Saturday to take the Fire Commission language into the Police Commission, right? <br />BESS: She did. <br />HERKES: And then we waffled a lot with it. <br />IRVINE: Actually, Marni, when you stop to look at it, Honolulu has already got very similar language that they transferred - <br />I don’t know whether they transferred, but their Police Commission is quite similar to what their Fire Commission does. And <br />then Chris did go on to tell us that three of the items in there, (c), (d), and (e), I think, would maybe give them a little more <br />power. To me, a lot of that just spells out more clearly what their duties and powers are because they obviously don’t know <br />what powers they have, because they ask the Corp Counsel, and he or she says - <br />RAY: I remember Roland definitely brought up - <br />IRVINE: Doesn’t want the one, yes. <br />YUEN: We did have this discussion on whether to import the additional powers that are not in our present Police <br />Commission, but my notes say that the discussion was continued to today, and it was not voted on. <br />MARTIN: Yes, it was continued and I think it was Mr. Bess that needed more time to think about it. And there was another <br />one, too, that was forwarded till today. <br />SANTANGELO: And where are we with that language that said ‘hearing’? Weren’t we going to remove that ‘hearing’? <br />MARTIN: That’s what Chris was going to write up and propose back to us at some time in time. <br />YUEN: Yes, I don’t have that but I’ll get that. I’m sure that was, though, for just the Fire Commission, but you’re going to <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 02-09-00.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />