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minutes 03-08-00Page 11 of 35 <br />one person gets the 50% + 1 in the first election, then they’re elected outright. <br />MARTIN: Okay. <br />YUEN: Now, if you only have two running, it’s guaranteed that one person will be elected outright unless they absolutely tie, <br />the way it was voted on by the Commission the first go round. <br />MARTIN: Okay. Now, the 50 + 1 number is based on what? <br />YUEN: It’s based on people actually casting valid votes for candidates. It does not include blank and spoiled ballots. Spoiled <br />ballot would be like an over-vote, where, say it’s a Council district election, you only get to vote for one and you vote for two <br />people. They don’t count that. It’s an over-vote and you would not include that in determining what is the 50%. <br />MARTIN: So, only clean ballots cast in that particular district. <br />YUEN: That’s right. <br />HERKES: Says excluding blank and spoiled. <br />HIGASHI: Only votes counted. <br />MARTIN: Right. <br />HERKES: It excludes spoiled too. <br />MARTIN: Correct. Thank you, Roland. <br />YUEN Right. <br />RAY: Any more question or comments in regard to the non-partisan elections? I encourage everybody to take notes and <br />make sure we all understand these, and help me, remind me, to bring out these points. As much as we can bring out at the <br />public hearings, I think, will be real helpful. <br />HERKES: You don’t want us to look dumb? <br />RAY: I just want to answer as many questions as we can up front. And by the way, the order of these, Chris wanted me to <br />make it real clear, and make it clear at the public hearings, that this is just preliminary listing, so this is not necessarily how <br />things will appear, in this order, or whatever. <br />Okay, so the Second - Council to include the at-large seats. So, does everybody understand this one-time exception? I got <br />some phone calls on that so I’ve explained it. Basically, the 4 two-year terms kicked in in 1996, so should this pass, it would <br />take effect in 2002, and what we’re suggesting is that there would be a one-time exception that anybody that were in office <br />then, and all the present people will have served 6 years by then on their term limits, anyone would be allowed to run for an <br />at-large seat. So, if they did win an at-large seat, they would be able to be in office for 10 years vs. 8. <br />MARTIN: Or possibly longer, because some people are still in office that was preceding that date. <br />RAY: Right, yes, like Mr. Arakaki, who has already been in office - But the term limit didn’t start until ‘96 so he could have <br />been in office 20 years total. <br />HERKES: I’d like us not to get distracted by that, and stay on the issue of representation. The issue of how long term limits <br />and people can run, and can they run again, that will disappear in about two elections. <br />RAY: Still, it’s a very important issue to people. I got more phone calls in regard to that and specific Councilmen than <br />anything else, so people do focus on that. <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 03-08-00.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />