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minutes 03-08-00Page 18 of 35 <br />RAY: In an Environmental Services Commission. <br />IRVINE: Yes. <br />RAY: Just take out the word ‘advisory’. <br />HERKES: That’s an interesting change. I’m not against it. <br />IRVINE: Yes, but down below, it does say they advise. <br />HIGASHI: Just let me ask this question then. If they’re not advisory, are they policy makers? Are they equivalent to a Board <br />of Water Supply Commission? <br />HERKES: No, Planning Commission. <br />HIGASHI: Planning Commission is only to move along zoning issues. They’re not policy makers for the department. <br />HERKES: Gee, they’d be surprised to hear that. <br />HIGASHI: So if you take away ‘advisory’ then they’re not advisory, what authority do they have? <br />IRVINE: Down below, again, it says that they shall advise, so they really are advisory, but we did talk about the fact that they <br />want somebody to set sewer rates, and whether this would be a function that would be given to them at some point in time, I <br />don’t know. If we leave advisory out of above - <br />HERKES: Solid waste, wastewater, recycling programs. <br />IRVINE: I think it might be nice to leave ‘advisory’ off. <br />HIGASHI: No, no, Marni, I think the programs are defined but when we’re talking about the members who are serving, <br />they’re advisory, and that’s all they are. They’re going to make suggestions and then they’re going to have money, they’re <br />going to have to go to the Council to implement their programs. <br />HERKES: Let me throw something out. Do we need a Commission? Why don’t we just have a department, and if a <br />Commission is necessary, they can put it in the Charter next year, or the year after, once they get the department set up. <br />IRVINE: That’s a little like throwing the baby out with the bath water. I think there has been a Commission presently, the <br />Recycle Hawaii and the County, I can’t think of the exact name of the Commission that’s been meeting that John Santangelo <br />was sitting on. <br />HERKES: It’s not a Commission. <br />IRVINE: No, it’s an advisory committee of some sort. <br />RAY: It’s a committee, yes. <br />IRVINE: Yes, you’re right. It wasn’t appointed in any manner. <br />RAY: I think how we got here is because originally we were focused more on a Commission than a department. <br />HERKES: Yes, and we ended up with a department. Now I’m wondering if we need the Commission. You’re right. That’s <br />exactly how we got here. <br />IRVINE: Let’s take it out to the public and then look at it again. <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 03-08-00.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />