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minutes 03-11-00Page 13 of 17 <br />HOLSCHUH: Well, Roland, forgive me. I would argue that the opposite would be true. We ought to maybe mention it in the <br />Charter so we can pick up the pieces, God help us, if it were ever terminated. You know what I’m saying? My estimation, <br />that language ‘EMS’ which is a national standard, unless maybe I don’t understand something about the way one writes this <br />in the Charter, and that may well be because you guys are way more versed. I see what you’re saying, but I don’t think EMS <br />is definitely just State EMS. In other words, EMS is a national term, and I like EMS and if you had EMS and rescue, that’s <br />fine, but EMS is emergency medical services. There are documents and courses and textbooks on that. <br />HIGASHI: That’s fine. <br />BESS: Following up on what Roland’s saying here, I’m just wondering whether or not, if that is a concern, about putting <br />medical services into the Charter, that what we might do is just say ‘and emergency services’ and that the record clearly <br />reflect what we intend by that is, and I’m talking about the record of the Charter Commission, that what we’re intending is <br />clearly medical services and rescue. And then that way, if there was a problem down the line, emergency services would be <br />interpreted that way. <br />HOLSCHUH: That may solve it. Yes, seems reasonable. <br />RAY: In any case, it would be helpful if you submitted something in writing just to - <br />BESS: Yes, please. <br />HOLSCHUH: The only other thing, I was just more curious. As I mentioned, I’ve been a member of the EMS Commission <br />for many, many years now and, quite honestly, I suppose I shouldn’t say this here, but I’ve been extremely frustrated about <br />the advisory nature of the EMS Commission all these years because through five different Mayors, you make <br />recommendations and whether they do or do not want to listen to you is an incredible amount of energy that’s been spent on <br />trying to get things done in EMS. But I’m wondering what happens to the EMS Commission. Fire Commission - Is this entity <br />- This in no way takes away the EMS Commission? Does the EMS Commission come under this, or does that still - <br />HERKES: Who appoints the EMS Commission? <br />HOLSCHUH: It’s the mayoral appointment. It’s a mayoral Commission, so that would stay as is or does this imply changing <br />that? <br />HERKES: Where is it in this Charter? <br />IRVINE: Not in the Charter, I don’t think. <br />RAY: We haven’t discussed it. It’s not something in the Charter, but that’s a good point to bring up. <br />HIGASHI: Because it’s an advisory Commission, similar to the Elderly - Aging Commission. <br />RAY: Right, so the Mayor has the authority to create those types of Commissions, and that’s how it’s dealt with in the <br />Charter. <br />HIGASHI: And it runs with the Office of the Mayor. <br />HOLSCHUH: So by creating this, it wouldn’t preclude that in any way? <br />RAY: No, it would, but it wouldn’t protect it either. <br />IRVINE: Fred? Yes, I was wondering, could you conceive of the Fire Commission covering the kinds of things that your <br />EMS Commission does right now, or maybe they should be combined? If you have any thoughts. <br />HOLSCHUH: Well, perhaps. I don’t want to belabor this now, but perhaps. The only thing is the EMS Commission, although <br />I’m frustrated by its relative impotence, sorry for the word, but the ability to really pound the table and get something done - <br />That has been frustrating to me and this sounds like this has a lot more teeth in it, this particular Fire Commission. The <br />problem is this is a five member Commission. The EMS Commission, I don’t know how many members, but we had a <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 03-11-00.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />