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minutes 03-18-00Page 17 of 27 <br />whole issue, I think. If the Commission doesn’t have any power, number 1 and foremost, to establish rates and financing <br />capital improvement projects, we’re not really much better off than we are now. We just added a new Department Head, <br />which obviously, I guess I should have mentioned that, the need is great. The Chief Engineer of the Department of Public <br />Works has a tremendous responsibility, and I’ll be speaking on that also. And I think the Department of Public Works has <br />just grown too much. With all the new regulations from EPA and all, I think it’s very appropriate to have a new department, <br />but this department should have the power. The way you’re proposing it, it’s just a separate - <br />RAY: Well, it is proposed as an advisory Commission to be another layer of input in regard to this issue, but I guess the call <br />was we didn’t feel it was politically - <br />BOUCHER: Well, that’s the big - <br />RAY: There’s a lot of sympathy for moving that whole function over, so I guess we’re looking at this as more of an <br />intermediate step in getting there vs. - <br />BOUCHER: You could be correct there because that’s the one bug-a-boo. It’s almost a defacto tax increase, if it was a <br />separate Commission that had the right to establish rates, particularly in regard to solid waste because wastewater, we’re <br />independent now for the most part. We fund ourselves notwithstanding capital improvements. <br />RAY: So it would be a Commission more to address that situation and a forum to engage the public and, hopefully, move <br />them in that direction and get more acceptance and a more responsible attitude towards all of us being responsible for our <br />contribution to the waste stream. But our feeling was that we’re not ready to go there yet. <br />BOUCHER: Yes, you could be right because I think it might not pass if - <br />RAY: And as you’re well aware, Charter Amendments can be made three ways; by petition, by the Charter Commission <br />every 10 years making recommendations, but any Council person, and prompted by the Administration, can put a Charter <br />Amendment on the ballot at any election. <br />IRVINE: But it takes a two-thirds vote. <br />RAY: So, it’s not that you have to wait ten years. When I was on the County Council, I proposed a Charter Amendment <br />which was on the ballot the last election. So in other words, if we wanted to move the Commission sooner rather than later <br />into that function, and it still would be a Charter Amendment, and would still have to be voted on by the public so our <br />thought is that it certainly is not something that has to wait ten years to get there if that’s where the Council feels like they <br />want to move this. Obviously, the dynamics are very different from us being comfortable making recommendations and the <br />Council County, so I certainly recognize the politics of all that. In other words, it’s politically easier for us to make proposed <br />amendments than it is for the Council in a lot of cases and this would certainly be one of them. <br />BOUCHER: Actually, in that light, I think I see where you’re coming from. <br />IRVINE: Can I add one more thing? We had thought about taking ‘advisory’ out in the top paragraph of our statement. Even <br />though it still would be advisory, we were thinking that putting it in the Charter would give it a little more emphasis than the <br />way things have been now, with a Committee Ad Hoc set up that isn’t mentioned in the Charter, that if you have a <br />Commission established by Charter, that it would therefore give it a little more weight than Commissions that the Mayor can <br />just appoint and ignore at their own discretion. <br />BOUCHER: And there doesn’t appear - Oh, it does say - I take that back - regarding the geographic distribution of the <br />Commission. Okay, in light of - I think I see where you’re coming from, so I agree with that. <br />Item number 9, Safety Coordinator. This is a very important issue, particularly in wastewater safety. It’s a very dangerous <br />environment that we work in, and I think by having a Safety Coordinator who is hired based on his qualifications rather than <br />by a political appointment, I think would be a strong - not meaning any disrespect to our current Safety Coordinator, but I <br />think, in general, just having somebody who is hired based on his qualifications would be a very strong help to the County, <br />and I strongly support that item. <br />And lastly, item number 11, Qualifications, the Head of the Department of Public Works and Water Supply. I don’t think I <br />can say anything more than what has been said by Milton Pavao and Curt Beck - <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 03-18-00.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />