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minutes 04-01-00Page 21 of 22 <br />working for the small owner subdivisions because we are being blocked access to Federal funds because, for instance, <br />plantation camps in North Hilo can get access, 300 families, to $3 million Federal funds to improve their water systems <br />because the County politically agreed to back them up. Okay. Oceanview, which has also been approved to get Federal <br />money for developing water systems - they’re the highest priority to get water development money from the Feds, can’t get it <br />because the County won’t back them up. The Department of Water Supply passes the buck to the County. The County passes <br />the buck back to the Department of Water Supply. So, what he was talking about is the kind of Improvement Districts they <br />have on the mainland where a group of people can get together and set up their own district with their own government, their <br />own governance, their own Commission, and agree to tax themselves. Then, they themselves, as an Improvement District, <br />have the power to go to the Federal Government and apply for Federal funds as a community. And that’s the problem we’re <br />talking about is that they, themselves, have the power then. Right now, these subdivisions cannot, themselves, apply for those <br />Federal funds that are supposed to be there for them. Okay. <br />RAY: And that empowerment would come from whom? <br />GOODELL: I believe it could come at the County level. That’s the thing is I’m not really prepared with this because I’m not <br />sure it’s a Commission issue or whether it’s just the County Council passing an ordinance saying they can do it. As far as I <br />understand it, (indiscernible) just did some research on this, but we’re losing lots and lots of Federal money because of this. <br />RAY: George, comment? <br />MARTIN: Point of clarification on that water system. And it just so happens that I live in Ookala and I’m the President of the <br />Association out there. And we, as a collective group of individuals, lobbied to get what grants we possibly could, and then <br />our Association of approximately 52 people, floated a $125,000 loan that we are paying back. So, I mean, if you’re willing to <br />partner with government, and that’s the partnership that we had to undertake to get what we wanted, to get ourselves off of a <br />system that was dangerous because of the contaminants that was in it, especially for our older and younger people, then that’s <br />what we decided to do. So, I understand what you’re saying, but sometimes you got to look at other avenues. Government <br />didn’t come and offer this to us. We offered it to them. <br />GOODELL: Right. I don’t think that changes, I mean, the issue of giving communities, because politics still entered into it. <br />RAY: Sue Irvine. <br />IRVINE: I guess you, sort of, asked my question, and this may be a Charter issue, but we don’t know and you don’t know. I <br />guess we can ask our attorney. But if you have anything written down, just a paragraph like what you just said, or where we <br />could put it in the Charter, what needs to be done, that would be good. <br />GOODELL: I’ll mail it to you. <br />IRVINE: Sooner rather than later since we’re just about through. <br />RAY: To our staff. <br />GOODELL: Do you have an e-mail address? <br />IRVINE: Yes. <br />RAY: You know, we’ve been going through this for 15 months. Okay? We’re nearing the end of the process to take on major <br />- So, just understand that as well, right? And this is not the only way that this can happen. Your Council person, if that were <br />to be the route, can be an advocate for this either through ordinance or through the Charter or through whatever. <br />GOODELL: Right. No, I just wanted to clarify that there seemed to be a misunderstanding about what - <br />RAY: Marni, did you have a comment? <br />HERKES: Well, I’m confused. I don’t see where it goes under the Charter, but I also don’t see if Ookala, which is a much <br />smaller community, can do this, why Oceanview can’t do this. I don’t see why they can’t take the same scenario that Ookala <br />did and supplant it and do an Improvement District, and partner with Federal and County. And I don’t know where that is. <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 04-01-00.htm7/1/2011 <br /> <br />