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minutes 04-12-00Page 23 of 26 <br />RAY: So, we hadn’t anticipated a change to the Code of Ethics so far, so this would be an additional amendment, right? So in <br />that light, but we talking about taking out three or four things. <br />HERKES: It’s additional because there’s nothing in our Code of Ethics that says government officials have to behave at all. <br />KUROZAWA: Can I ask you a cynical question? <br />HERKES: Sure. <br />KUROZAWA: Do you think, if we put this Code of Ethics in there, that’ll make them be more ethical? <br />HERKES: I think that it will call to their attention. I intend to use it in testimony a lot. <br />IRVINE: That’s what I was going to say. I mean, other people will bring it up if they’re not meeting their obligations. <br />RAY: Yes, Chris. <br />YUEN: I was just mulling over something that Daryl brought up on the 6-3 Council, and just to mention – there’s been some <br />discussion of ways to divide up the island in three so that they would not run at-large. The only other way besides using <br />Senatorial Districts, you could have the County Reapportionment Commission divide up the island into three districts, and <br />possibly, if it were the intention to guarantee at least one West Hawaii seat, to instruct them that, and I don’t remember the <br />numbers of the districts but, say the districts represented by Wayland and Rath, or their approximate boundaries, would have <br />to be one of the districts. <br />RAY: Thank you. <br />KUROZAWA: I have just a quick question, and I don’t want a long answer. We can talk about it next meeting, but for Chris <br />to think about. Native Hawaiian issue. I’m sure we’re going to talk about it a little bit, but the reason I asked him ask the <br />question was because I was concerned that if we have an exemption for Native Hawaiians, will there be a problem that <br />Hawaiians will say well, I’m not going to pay taxes. While I’m thinking about this the next few weeks, that’s always a <br />concern for me that if they’re exempted from the Charter, will that be an issue, depending upon the language, if it’s put into <br />that? <br />YUEN: I don’t see any rhythm or reason to exempt Native Hawaiians from the Charter. I don’t know what that would even <br />mean. Native Hawaiians have the rights to vote and the privileges of a governmental service under the County of Hawaii in a <br />non-discriminatory fashion. Although there was some very long answers to the question of the police and fire protection on <br />Hawaiian homes land, I think the answer was that they did not think that the County had the authority to provide police and <br />fire protection on Hawaiian homes land. If I were a owner of a home in Hawaiian Homes, I would be very concerned about <br />that, and I would not appreciate someone suggesting that the County should not put out a fire at my house if it started to burn <br />down. There are two things raised here. One was exempting Hawaiians generally, and then the second was exempting <br />Hawaiian homes land. It is a clear implication of taking Hawaiian homes land out of the Charter that the County services <br />would not be provided to Hawaiian homes lands any longer, nor would residents on Hawaiian homes lands have the right to <br />vote. That’s what it would mean to take the Hawaiian homes out of the Charter. As I mentioned last time, there are gray areas <br />over what the County’s jurisdiction in certain respects, like zoning, is over Hawaiian homes lands. However, in some other <br />respects such as the power of the police, I think it’s quite clear that the police have exactly the same powers and duties to <br />enforce criminal law on Hawaiian homes land as they do in any other neighborhood in the county. <br />RAY: All right. <br />HERKES: Mr. Ray, one more thing before you get through. The Liquor Commission staff stays for these late meetings. I <br />know there’s compensatory things. We have the Chairman today. But I think it would be nice if we provided some kind of <br />gift, or some kind of recognition, maybe a basket or something, for them just to say thank you. They have coffee for us. <br />They’ve done a bunch of stuff for us. <br />RAY: Good idea. <br />Under New Business. Hawaii Redevelopment Agency. We’ve received testimony on that. Go ahead, Sue. <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 04-12-00.htm7/1/2011 <br /> <br />