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looked at it ten years ago, and there's a reason for that, and I honestly believe that. So that's just <br />• my reason. It may be wrong, but that's just how I, personally, feel. <br />RAY: Mr. Bess. <br />BESS: Let me say something, and this speaks to both of these guys. One of the <br />things that stands out for both of these individuals is their professionalism and their openness to <br />looking at provisions free of their own opinions. Now, we all know that's more theoretical than <br />real, but the committee was impressed by both of these guys, by their willingness to be able to look <br />at things openly. So I think, you know, in terms of either one of them having an agenda or a <br />narrowness of vision in looking at the Charter, I don't see it. And that's -, if I were saying, gee, <br />okay, I really think that the reason I want Chris here is because he's going to look at the Charter <br />the same way he did ten years ago, I'm convinced that he won't look at the Charter as he did ten <br />years ago because, because he is of the professional quality he is. So -, and not only do I think a <br />lot of Steve professionally, I have a lot of aloha for him personally. But, you know, personally, I <br />am going to vote in favor of Chris for the reasons stated. <br />BALOG: Well -. <br />HIGASHI: You know, in the procedural part, rather than -, can we take a straw vote, <br />just vote -, I. don't want to vote against somebody but I'd rather vote -, take a straw vote first and <br />then go -, we're unanimous or whatever. <br />HERKES: Robert's Rules don't call for -. <br />SANTANGELO: No. <br />BERKES: <br />IRVINE: <br />BERKES: <br />RAY: <br />HERKES: <br />RAY: <br />MARTIN: <br />RAY: <br />Straw votes. <br />No. <br />I don't think. <br />No, I think we should just vote. <br />I think we got to, you know, stop these straw votes. <br />We're in the Executive Session, anyway. <br />Call for - <br />Wait, wait, wait, hold on. <br />9 <br />