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HERKES: I have a -, and I'd like to speak for Chris Yuen. -I have a kind of a mentor
<br />that was on the last Charter Commission, and I kind of bounce things off of him and talk to him a
<br />lot, and he felt that Chris Yuen did a job that was above and beyond what was necessary. There
<br />is- a perception, of course, on the other side of the Island that maybe not quite things are handled
<br />as well as they could be or that there's certain -, and that came out in this discussion, but he felt
<br />that Chris Yuen was even above board and did an excellent job on the last Charter Commission,
<br />so I'll just say that.
<br />RAY: Okay.
<br />HERKES: But I like Steven Lim, also.
<br />BESS: Ido, too.
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<br />RAY: Absolutely. Gary.
<br />YOSHIYAMA: Yeah, I guess I -, John, I'm going to ask for a ruling from you whether or
<br />not I can vote, because we recently hired Chris Yuen as an attorney to represent us on a case.
<br />The case is over now, okay, but I thought I'd just throw it to you and then you can determine
<br />whether I can vote or not.
<br />• RAY: I think that's fine.
<br />YOSHIYAMA: Okay. Thank you.
<br />RAY: Okay. John.
<br />SANTANGELO: Kevin, having been on that selection committee and having worked with, as
<br />you know from the Council, I've worked with Steve before. You know, we're really talking
<br />about two people that are just right out there. I guess my personal relationship with Steve really
<br />leaned me in that direction, and so it was really a slow and a slight edge that Chris has because,
<br />again, having met him on several occasions here, and then, you know, the background and then
<br />the experience, and you said, gee, you know -. And then with Steve it was just really, really hard
<br />to get with him. Steve -, you know, Steve's busy as heck. And so, you know, it's -, I mean, this
<br />Commission will be well served with either. I do feel the committee struggled really, really
<br />openly, you know, with this, and we didn't quickly come to a unanimous decision, but we did
<br />come to a very supportive, unanimous decision based on the quality of the two and the fact that
<br />there's a lot to be said about the openness of what Chris could offer us. But, you know, you've
<br />got -, I mean, you got two Cadillacs just came out of the factory, and they're perfect, you know.
<br />RAY: Okay. Roland.
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