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HERKES: One minute. <br />ROSS: Okay. <br />HERKES: That's how much longer. <br />ROSS: I've had this -. I'm almost through. <br />HERKES: That's right. <br />ROSS: I think that you have a conflict of interest in your minutes where <br />Attorney Bess is the -, was mentioned as the leading man for the three-man committee for <br />attorney search. I don't agree with that. I think it ought to be an outsider who looks for an <br />attorney for you because I -, not that I don't like Mr. Bess, I don't even know him, but the <br />point is he can come up with recommendations of all his friends without you knowing it, so <br />this is a clear conflict of interest. <br />HERKES: I know who your friends are. Do you feel that way about the secretarial <br />position, also? I have a lot of friends that are secretaries. <br />ROSS: <br />HERKES: <br />No, the secretary -. <br />I have a lot of friends that are secretaries. <br />ROSS: Your secretary ought to be, well, like other -, Police Commission has a <br />secretary, you know, she's on the County payroll. <br />HERKES: Oh, no. Okay. <br />RAY: Okay. <br />HERKES: Is that a recommendation? <br />ROSS: Yeah. Not that you do it. You have to have -. <br />HERKES: No, no. <br />ROSS: Somebody here that you pay for that kind of work. <br />Local police should patrol all parks, State and County. The people in this building, and I stay <br />here from time to time, old people, you know. <br />HERKES: Like me. <br />26 <br />