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fr <br />COMMISSIONERS: Aye. <br />RAY: Okay. Minutes approved. Let the record show that Mr. Alonzo is now <br />here. Okay. Hi, Henry. <br />ROSS: Do you have a list of speakers? <br />RAY: No, but you're the only one, and I know you're here. <br />ROSS: Okay. <br />RAY: Okay. <br />HIGASHI: In relation to the minutes, Mr. Chairman, is it up for discussion whether <br />it's verbatim minutes or -? <br />RAY: Yeah. <br />HIGASHI: According to what the action of -, I mean, this Committee is recorded? <br />RAY: Sure, I think it's appropriate to take that up now so, Mr. Higashi, <br />comments in regard to the minutes format? <br />HIGASHI: Well, I felt more comfortable if we record the actions of this <br />Commission as part of the minutes because when we get into public hearings, I mean, it's <br />eight hours of testimony, four hours of testimony. Do we need to take those things in <br />verbatim, also? If we have one standard, I think I'd feel more comfortable with it. <br />RAY: <br />IRVINE: <br />Okay. Other comments? <br />Are you saying that we'd have a tape but not do verbatim minutes? <br />HIGASHI: We can record the actions of this Commission when we have a duly <br />made motion, second, and then whether it's passed or defeated; that should be recorded. <br />RAY: Marni. <br />HERKES: So the way I've usually done it is actions, any group are usually put in <br />the first of the minutes, highlighted in bold, and then repeated in the body of the minutes when <br />they actually happen so that you can look at the first page of the minutes and you can see any <br />actions that have been taken, that have been voted on. And then you can go to the body of the <br />minutes and it'll -, and it's also repeated there. But I agree with Roland that any actions need <br />to be voted, you know, need to be in the minutes. <br />4 <br />