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everybody try to use the mike since it seems to be we're headed in that direction. <br />BALOG: When we did the Planning Commission, we did a test run of doing <br />minutes summarized versus verbatim, and because the people transcribing the minutes off the <br />tapes need to summarize what people say, it actually took them longer to do the minutes than it <br />took them to type them verbatim. And the other thing, if you do summarize, your motions that <br />are made and accepted or whatever you do pass, from what we understood from our -, when <br />Corp. Counsel advised us, has to be verbatim in your minutes. And then your testimony from <br />the public and the Commissioners can be summarized. But your actual motions that are made <br />have to be verbatim. <br />RAY: Marni. <br />HERKES: I notice that later in the agenda we're going to have an item on <br />secretary, and I think some of this would come under that, because I would suspect that a <br />really good secretary would not take longer to summarize and could take minutes, and I would <br />expect a secretary to attend the meeting and do the minutes and not from the tape. And so I <br />would think that there is something to be said to leaving some of this discussion until later, <br />until we talk about the secretarial position. <br />RAY: Gary. <br />YOSHIYAMA: I think we should discuss it later when Mr. Wurdeman comes up because <br />in the minutes, he addressed this about, you know, verbatim versus, you know, other types of <br />information to put in the -. I can't find it though. I know I read it when I reviewed it. Since <br />this was verbatim, it's hard to find. <br />RAY: Okay, John, just a quick comment and then let's -. <br />SANTANGELO: A quick comment for consideration is I know some of the examples <br />we're giving are situations in which decisions and votes have a direct impact and are <br />implemented. What we're doing here are we're coming up with concepts that will go to vote <br />and be ratified by the voters, so what we're doing doesn't have a direct and immediate <br />consequence. So I just wanted to put as a difference between what we're doing here and what <br />other people do and just wanted to put that out there. <br />HERKES: Thank you. <br />RAY: All right, well, let's table that until we have Corporation Counsel. <br />Henry, we decided to table the issue of whether we're going to have verbatim or summary <br />minutes until Corporation Counsel gets here. <br />Financial Status Report. Let me give a shot at this. I met with the Finance Director, Harry <br />6 <br />