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YUEN: From the general public, I think people have -, some people have good <br />ideas, but they weren't ready to be brought into the Charter or they were things that were a little <br />more specific than what you actually are going to put in the Charter, and people want to <br />sometimes put in things that are more legislative in nature than really the function of the -, the <br />structure function of the government, which is a little abstract. Apart from something like single <br />member districts, which had a lot of interest, political interest from the general public, most of the <br />things that the Commission was looking at ten years ago, like the relative power of the Mayor <br />versus the Council in budget is just not something that the average person is going to come and <br />give testimony about. <br />BETHEA: Yeah, right as he was saying that I wrote down budget process, because <br />that was something that I'm not sure we ever really felt we handled. There were some <br />complications and time problems in there, weren't there, you know, about does the Council have <br />enough time and -? I can barely remember it, but those -, that was a problem area. <br />L'ORANGE: I think you should be as open as possible with the public. One of the things <br />that amazed me is that one organization, let's leave it nameless, had very excellent written <br />material. When the president got up, he put his foot in his mouth and shot down everything he <br />had written. I mean, he gave us just strictly B.S. And so I think it's very important to give <br />people a chance to show that, I mean to -, and to be questioned, if you have to question them, <br />you know. I was shocked. One of the best reading material I ever seen, and then the guy that <br />presented it, wow. And I think -. Well, let's just leave it there. <br />But we had police protection in Puna. I don't recall why, but there was some reason why we had <br />the police protection in Puna. <br />BETHEA: Because it was Puna. <br />HERKES: Now, be careful. <br />BETHEA: I don't know. I don't remember that. <br />L'ORANGE: Ido. <br />SANTANGELO: I'd like to -. Wait? Okay. <br />RAY: Is any -, we are perfectly prepared to start a little dialogue here, but is there <br />• anything -? <br />L'ORANGE: Yeah, I -. <br />RAY: You'd like to say as far as just sort of a presentation or -? <br />9 <br />