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• BEN: We're in right now. But part of the interest, too, was to start implementing <br />and developing a safety program which would, in fact, incorporate safety training. There is one <br />position in the office right now under Mr. Sasan, who's also responsible for safety training, and <br />quite frankly, I don't know what is going on with the safety program. Early on, with previous <br />directors, we were involved extensively. There were safety committees set up, and we would <br />attend meetings and get safety reports and know what the various departments were doing. But <br />then, again, that was under a different leadership so -. <br />So, again, getting back to the staffing question, I think right now the staffing is adequate. It's a <br />matter of how you conduct business. <br />RAY: Okay. Other questions? Yes. <br />IRVINE: I guess I was wondering what the staffing is right now and whether -, it's <br />beginning to sound like there's workmens' comp and then there's safety issues that are all under <br />this department. Is that your impression or -? <br />BEN: Yes, the appointed position is called the Safety Coordinator, and under the <br />Safety Coordinator there is a Driver -, Driver Safety and Improvement position, there is a <br />Workers' Comp professional position, and under -, in that Workers' Comp unit, I believe there's <br />two or three clerical positions. <br />HIGASHI: Mr. Ben, if that position is strictly just eliminated, administratively, could <br />those responsibilities be just absorbed by you? <br />BEN: No. You're talking about the head position or all the positions? <br />HIGASHI: No, no, the function, the function of employee safety, employees -, getting <br />employees back to work. I mean workers' comp is a big function of this office, and workers' <br />comp is a lot more than having two clerks and then somebody trying to teach people how to drive <br />trucks. <br />BEN: Without the staff moving over, my department would not be able to -. <br />HIGASHI: No, no, no. <br />BEN: Assume the function. <br />HIGASHI: I'm not -, I'm saying that the Charter is silent, yeah. Would that be a <br />administrative thing that your department could just absorb? <br />BEN: No. <br />• <br />26 <br />