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• but I look at the practical side of this, about going the City Manager and think, my goodness, maybe John, your idea is best. Let's look at the Charter and try to fine tune it with these attributes that are so, to me, very appealing about the City Manager form of government. RAY: Okay. Ms. Irvine. IRVINE: John, could you speak to what you think might be able to be done with the Managing Director's position as it is, that would make it more like this Council Manager? RAY: I haven't come up with anything really dramatic or exciting. I'm still working on it. It would be hard and it really boils down a lot to who the person is. I mean, right now if you had the person that were so inclined, I think they could creatively do a whole lot with our present structure of government to make things much more professional in terms of how it is structured. Mr. Martin. MARTIN: Just a point of clarification. I know we're going to take this straw vote very shortly here but we have two members missing so just keep that in mind. RAY: Okay. Let's just have a show of hands of who would like to at least • pursue this further to the point of us following up on some of these additional websites, this new contact we've gotten that Curtis brought up and see where that leads us, so show of hands, your right hand. HANDS RAISED: E. Alonzo, S. Bess, M. Herkes, S. Irvine, J. Santangelo, G. Yoshiyama RAY: So for now, we will see what we can pull together and I'll also see what I can come up with and - MARTIN: If I may. So now you're going to allow our counsel to also pursue his endeavors in finding more information for us? RAY: In a limited way, not - MARTIN: indicated. I think we should release the hounds. That's what the body just HERKES: You have to pay for them when you release them, you know. We've only got $97,000.00. BALOG: Hey, that's the breaks. Go back to the Council and ask for more 24