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• from that Commission at some point, or otherwise they'd be there forever. • YUEN: I can draw it up as alternative I, alternative 2. I can draw it up where there's an indefinite holdover. At this point, it's just to have something concrete for people to look at. I can write it up in both alternatives so that the person holds over, theoretically, forever if there's never a person confirmed. I can also write up a version where there's a set period of time, and I'II just make it 60 days, because that could be changed, as a maximum holdover period. BALOG: I think, too, as far as our County government is, everyone always says look to the State or look to what other people do. Whereas the County has in their Charter that people shall not serve more than one term for Boards and Commissions, the State has a shorter term but allows the Governor to ask to reappoint these people for a second term, so you could limit, just through language, through Amendment, not to exceed original term, blah, blah, if you want to use for something like an indefinite term, or you can put shorter terms, but there has been cases on a few Commissions where they haven't been able to find replacements. Someone has a conflict, then when you go to take a vote, you aren't getting a true vote of your body so it can cause some problems. But anyway, I'd just like to see some language so we could vote at the next meeting. RAY: Okay, I'm not clear. You'd like to see - BALOG: He's saying he's going to draw up different language. I don't know if you have to make a motion or what, but what do e have to do to get him to do something? HIGASHI: One of the things in the Charter, you cannot succeed yourself. You serve a five year term and then you cannot be reappointed. That's his point. Another alternative is you can have people serve specific number of terms. That's another alternative that's not addressed in the Charter. BALOG: I'm just bringing that up because a good example is our Attorney, Chris Yuen. He sat on the Land Board. So I don't know if you served two terms or not, but whether he did or not, the Executive Branch, if they view whether it was him or anyone else serving in a State, it could be the Board of Regents or what have you, if they view those members doing a good job on that specific Board, they have the option, whether it's this sitting Governor or a newly elected Governor, to reappoint that person, so it looks past the grounds of, oh well, this Mayor may have the chance to appoint them twice. Well, what happens when a different Mayor gets elected and he still likes the work that these people are doing? It doesn't mean that people aren't doing good jobs because someone else may choose to appoint them, and it's happened in the State government where you've changed Governors and the next Governor has 46