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foresee a reduction, per se, but I think I see a redefining of positions, and I'll give you
<br />an example. Right now, some of the feedback we receive from our Engineering
<br />Division is we have engineers that serve two roles, or dual roles. One is a regulatory
<br />function that makes sure they follow grading laws and other kinds of rules and code
<br />requirements that we're responsible for, but they also manage projects, individual
<br />designs where they draw lines on paper and build things, or design things, or they
<br />oversee a private consultant that does the design. Each of these are assigned for a
<br />variety of reasons. One is for continuity purposes so that if one guy goes on vacation,
<br />everything doesn't come to a grinding halt, and also, just for training purposes so that
<br />we can have a broad brush of people that can back each other up. Now, when we
<br />make this change, the regulatory people that are reflected on the left side of this
<br />Engineering Division, will move to this Division of Permitting because we see that as
<br />one of the core functions of Public Works. There still needs to be a means where we
<br />can get engineering work done, and that's another side of Public Works that's not even
<br />shown on here. So, I think, what we're trying to achieve is some level of efficiency and
<br />better coordination between the permitting functions between Planning and Public
<br />Works, and there's a price to pay, so to speak, for that, so that when you say the goal
<br />is to achieve efficiencies or eliminate redundancy so you are going to reduce positions,
<br />maybe, from the Planning side, that could be possible. From the Public Works side, I
<br />think it's more that we want to achieve the efficiency of better communication, speeding
<br />of the process by which people do get their permits, and eliminating, maybe, errors or
<br />mistakes, that type of thing, through better communication, and in that, we achieve that
<br />through a redefining of the positions, so that it's not purely a 'let's try to save money'
<br />type of action. Let's try to improve service and efficiency, and there's a price to pay for
<br />that, and this is just part of that, or the steps that we're going to go through to try and
<br />achieve that. I think we're always looking for a way to make a better mouse trap, so to
<br />speak, or service the community better, and I think,, it's just one way of doing it, so
<br />maybe in the Planning side there might be some reductions but from Public Works, at
<br />this particular point in time, we don't see any.
<br />RAY: Sue.
<br />IRVINE: Thank you. I do have a question. We're talking about one-stop
<br />shopping. Where is the one-stop on here? I see so many permitting clerks and
<br />whatnot down at the bottom, so does someone go to this Civil Engineer up here, for this
<br />one -
<br />SUMADA: Right now, Commissioner, say for example, like a building permit.
<br />IRVINE: Right.
<br />SUMADA: You would initially come to our Building Division and they would
<br />tip- review the plans, do a cursory review,but then route you through different agencies
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