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ISBELL: That's why I said you're going to have trouble getting it through.
<br />You'd better have the right way of presenting it because you've got votes that are going
<br />to be the total public, not just here in this room. What you pass here goes to the public
<br />for vote.
<br />MARTIN: Yes, well again, clarification. We're not going to pass anything
<br />here. All we're going to do is present it to the voters and they will make the final
<br />decision.
<br />ISBELL: You are passing something to the voters. You're not going to pass
<br />something that you don't agree on, so, I don't understand where you're coming from. I
<br />think, you may need to be out there in the public a little bit, as John has been, and I
<br />have been where you are, and you John. When you're out there in the public, you get
<br />a real sense of how they feel and what's going on, and if you're presenting anything
<br />that's for change, it's got to be presented very carefully, very well, and very well thought
<br />out.
<br />RAY: Let's continue on around. John.
<br />SANTANGELO: Virginia, I appreciate the support for the Vote -by -mail. I'm going,
<br />to tie this back to something in the end because I want to, kind of, put it all together with
<br />one thought. The fraud is the issue. I, personally, in a campaigning strategy, used
<br />absenteeism, absentee vote, as a campaign, and I found the State really kind of
<br />thought each time someone succeeded at it, it seemed like they redoubled their effort
<br />to eliminate it. This might be a good way because you need the participation of people.
<br />The two things that always bothered me the most, personally, when 1 did it, was where
<br />do you draw the line of responsibility. Sometimes I struggle with the web. When it's
<br />too dang easy, where do you show the effort to get up and to be a part of something,
<br />and so I struggled with that, and getting an absentee ballot to people was where I
<br />finally decided. But, also the fraud was a really important issue, so I support that, and
<br />just bringing up the technology really is good.
<br />When you talk about your pamphlet and you said you wouldn't edit it. Having been on
<br />both sides of submitting information, a really good rule that I liked, was we're going to
<br />take X amount of words and we'll take your statement, and when we get to that word,
<br />we'll stop. That'll get people to condense it, you know, because so often, if you do take
<br />a sentence out, you are amending it, and so one magazine just flat told us that. We're
<br />going to just put it in there. It's going to be in this font, this size, and when we get to
<br />that number word, pau. It was kind of neat.
<br />ISBELL: Before you go on, just to let you know that the candidates all know
<br />that the only thing that we will do is shorten it. We will not change it, so if it gets -
<br />SANTANGELO: So you start at the top or the bottom.
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