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• BOUCHER: Presumably, they were together for several years, so I have to <br />imagine they shared facilities. But when I talk about sharing laboratory facilities, I don't <br />necessarily mean that we'd have one lab worker working here, testing wastewater and <br />another working here, testing potable water. We still have our own lab here that the <br />vast majority of all our testing would be done at. It's just you have some obscure tests <br />that need to be performed and it has certain specialized equipment, particularly as time <br />goes on and EPA comes down with more and more requirements, these tests become <br />really obscure and require very expensive equipment. So I think that's what I'm really, <br />kind of, referring to is some of the more specialized testing and we only have one <br />chemist. If our chemist, for some reason, gets in an automobile accident, or for some <br />other reason, is going to be out long term, we're in trouble right now. If we were <br />combined, well, perhaps somebody from Water could shift over and help out a while. <br />That sort of sharing is what I'm more referring to. <br />RAY: Is it totally unrealistic, if the departments are separate, to have <br />shared laboratory functions? Private laboratories are contracted out, aren't they, to do <br />certain things? In other words, if you're still a separate division, whichever way it would <br />go, is there a reason why your laboratory, or their laboratory, couldn't perform tests on - <br />BOUCHER: Each other. <br />RAY: I'm just trying to understand that. <br />PAVAO: May I make a comment? Laboratories that we contract with in the <br />mainland, because they're commercial laboratories, they're divided into separate areas. <br />Our laboratory, here, is geared only for the testing of domestic water. Now, if we were <br />to look at testing sewerage, we may need to isolate an area to do so. It's not saying we <br />can't do it, but we're not geared to do those types of tests now, the way we operate, <br />because the entire lab is opened and geared only for domestic water testing. <br />RAY: Okay. Sorry. Go ahead, Peter. <br />BOUCHER: Beyond that, the recyclable water distribution, I think, has been <br />touched on already. Increasingly, we're moving toward re -use, particularly in Kona, <br />and as I start the planning for it right now, which we've been doing for the last few <br />years, I'm rapidly discovering this is a whole new animal. This water distribution is quite <br />different than wastewater collection and treatment, and there would, certainly, be a <br />benefit there. Although, looking from Milton's perspective, perhaps some agreement <br />could be worked out there also, whereas we handed the water over to them at our plant <br />boundary and then they become responsible for distribution of some sort. Irregardless, <br />I put here 'paradigm of the water cycle management'. Again, Jiro talked about it. The <br />whole concept of what we're doing is looking at it as a whole water. We're treating it <br />from coming up out of the ground, taking it, using it, and ultimately re -using, and <br />disposing of it. Can be thought about in a holistic fashion, in one respect. And last, but <br />13 <br />