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time to study solid waste and wastewater. I took a couple of trips to the mainland and <br />went to some of the bigger ones in the United States, and I found that, generally <br />speaking, the Waste Department was separate from a delivery system. In fact, more <br />often, it seems appropriate to me to combine solid waste and wastewater, and in terms <br />of government, maybe that's what we should be looking at. So, I have one question, <br />but mainly I just want to get that across. For the rest of the Commissioners too, what <br />are we supposed to be involved here, and I think a lot of the discussion has to do with <br />stuff that shouldn't be things that we're considering. Just basically, it's good to put it <br />forward, so it comes down to that. In all honesty, with your experience, or Peter's, or <br />yours, Milton, how often, or how prudent is it to take a water delivery system, that one is <br />a consumable versus a waste, and combine those? And again, looking at our solid <br />waste, and our wastewater, and possibly combining that and enterprising it. I heard <br />you say, from five e-mails, again, figures don't lie, but sometimes we get carried away <br />with the figures, that you had a pretty good percentage of those respondents that this <br />was okay. I found it quite different but I'd like to get your opinion, and that's all I have <br />to ask. <br />PAVAO: The only occurrence I know is what I heard about the Oahu Water <br />Supply, where they made an attempt. They spent, I think, about a year trying to study <br />the thing; they tried it and it didn't last, and that's the only thing I know of. But, I'm sure <br />on the mainland, and as 1 said, this state is unique to the mainland, so a lot of things in <br />• the mainland should not be followed here because we are unique, but in the mainland, I <br />know there's wastewater and water companies combined. But my only knowledge here <br />is what was attempted at Oahu, which eventually just went back to how it was. <br />SANTANGELO: And I guess my last comment to both of you, unless you have a <br />comment there, is that I'd really caution us to get involved in what is, to me, very <br />obviously Administrative and Legislative problems. You know, we really are more at <br />the behest of the public than we are at the behest of government, but the Chairman has <br />wanted us to take a look at the problems you're facing, and see how we can address <br />them. Thank. you, Mr. Chair. <br />PAVAO: If I may make one comment. You asked about what we thought, <br />and for the people, and I agree with you a 100%, and in my mind, there is no doubt that <br />we can serve our consumers more efficiently without the Sewer Department being <br />transferred. I really believe that, and that's the entire interpretation from our <br />department. We value the customers we have. We try to do the best job possible, and <br />we feel, the way we are, we would be able to serve them the most efficiently we <br />possibly can. <br />SANTANGELO: Sure. And the problem that we're dealing with with wastewater, in <br />my opinion, again because I have a background, a little bit here - <br />18 <br />