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• HERKES: Yes, I understand. Yes. HIGASHI: I just had one question. Supposing you come to an agreement on handling the billing, what - RAY: My understanding, there already is an agreement. HIGASHI: No, they're working on an agreement. RAY: Okay. HIGASHI: I don't think they have it down in writing. RAY: Okay. HIGASHI: Once we have that agreement, what form would it lay before everybody? Would it require an ordinance, so that the Commission could decide we just want to cancel the thing? I mean, what's the next step once we have an agreement? How do we keep it enforced? PAVAO: Well, first of all, in absence of an actual agreement, we have it in writing that we will cooperate and do the billing, so it's a done deal. We agreed many months ago that we'll do it. I think the only thing that needs to be changed, as far as ordinance, is our rules and regulations because the rules and regulations of our department specifies when, how and where we can discontinue water, and right now, there is no provision for non-payment of sewer billing. HIGASHI: No, no, I understand that, Milton. I understand. PAVAO: That's probably the thing that we have to change immediately. HIGASHI: All I'm saying is, once you have an agreement, I mean, something that should be iron clad without one party just changing his mind. Right now, you have the opportunity of putting it in the Charter. In absence of that, is there a strategy as how to keep this agreement in force without just saying the Commission changes its mind? PAVAO: Yes, well, I don't have any strategy in mind, but I assure you, when the time comes, we certainly will take a look at what Oahu has in place, with their Sewer Department, because, as I said, they do provide that service to the Sewer Department, and we'll kind of look at what Oahu has in forms of agreement, then see if we could make that agreement fit our situation. HIGASHI: Would you say that, from listening to the discussion, that your 20