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people that I get, is that I have people that supported a single Council member from a <br />single member district, and have issues, that are not able to approach that person, so <br />when we asked them, on this new proposal, that you have other people that you could <br />go to, they felt very comfortable with that. And, bear in mind, that the single member <br />district proposal, when it was passed, was not a great majority, so I think, people may <br />be comfortable with a kind of compromise that we have, at -large and a single member <br />district. And then, I think, George, the four-year term on an at -large member is <br />reasonable because of the cost involved. It's like running two times, so I would not <br />yield, or recommend, that we do lesser term for the at -large members. <br />RAY: Daryl. <br />KUROZAWA: I just wanted to comment, sort of reply, on what John Santangelo <br />mentioned. I think there's no question that you're right. I think the at -large seats will <br />always have some opposition, and I think part of the opposition comes from years ago <br />when they had at -large seats, and all of them came from one district. And so, the <br />concern, I think, that may come up with this is that there's a potential that you may have <br />four representatives from one area, and have too much control and power. And so, just <br />to muddy the waters a little bit, you know there's three at -large seats, is there anyway <br />we could do it so that each one of them have to come from certain areas, for example, <br />representing two districts? Because there is going to be a concern, I know for sure that <br />they'll bring up, that four may come from Hilo, which happened before, and I can tell <br />• you, the West side people will say it's unfair because everything happens for one side. <br />So, I don't know how we could do that. I guess one potential proposal would be that at - <br />large has to come, each one from two districts each. <br />HERKES: Senatorial districts. <br />KUROZAWA: Basically. And so what you have is very equal division of power <br />island -wide. <br />RAY: Some other models have been put forth. You remember, Keola <br />Childs put forth a model where you'd have four districts electing two each, and then <br />one Councilman at -large. And the last Charter Commission, Pete L'Orange put forth <br />three members from each Senatorial District, and he didn't get any reception on that, at <br />that time, so it didn't go forward. It was put forward but that's more of a different type of <br />arrangement. <br />Sue. <br />IRVINE: I'm with Daryl on this, inasmuch as the number of people voting in <br />the various districts on our island, at this time, the East side had the preponderance of <br />votes, and that's the way it was in the past, and it's still that way now, so that the <br />possibility is that all of the at -large would come from the East side unless we put in <br />some provision. Maybe two person districts would be a better alternative. They would <br />10 <br />