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years, when they're not up for election, and I said, oh well, okay. HIGASHI: Just let me add to that. The Mayor could do the same thing, but it's been proven that people stay out of other's races. RAY: I wouldn't necessarily agree with that, and I wouldn't necessarily agree that the Mayor - I mean, the Mayor has the budget power over - HIGASHI: No, what I'm alluding to is that the Mayor does not go into his single member district because he's a four -term guy, and say I'm going to support this guy over another guy because this guy doesn't like the way 1 smile. I think people tend to not interfere with races because they are two or four-year terms. RAY: Okay, John. SANTANGELO: I found that two-year Council members interfere in people's races when they feel they are pretty secure at home. You don't eliminate that, and again, is this good government or not, and you can't legislate integrity. That's got to come from the individual. People who are going to meddle are going to meddle, and people who aren't, aren't. I think this works well, and I think it's a good model. I have to agree with John, and I may be different on this overall. I feel it's very provincial when it comes to those money matters, the CIP and stuff. But, on the other hand, it was my experience that when it came to the broader issues, the Council did try to deal with it on a broader base. HERKES: Is that in favor of or against? SANTANGELO: I'm in favor of this. I'm just saying that John has merit. HERKES: I just couldn't understand. SANTANGELO: Well, that's all right. You'll understand as we go along. RAY: Okay, are we ready? Anybody else have anything else to add? So, we have a motion on the floor to approve Roland's suggestion on the Council composition and terms. All in favor, aye. 8 COMMISSIONERS: Aye. RAY: Opposed? 2 COMMISSIONERS: Nay. RAY: Two? 17