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allowed, it says consecutive. If the person runs consecutively to the end of their term, they can take a hiatus and come back and run again. If the person is that good, they'll be able to do it, or move on to another position, if it's within their will to continue public service. I think the term limit is needed. It is done with the President. It's done with the Governor. It's done with the Mayor. If it wasn't so popular to do with the President, then the whole populace would have changed, but it's not, and it's there for a reason. And I agree with it, and I think it should stay. RAY: Other? I introduced, and we had on the last election, the change in the Council terms from 4 two-year to 2 four-year, and I don't like term limits either, but I think you're talking about political nightmare to put this up. You just walk into a buzz saw. HIGASHI: I don't know. RAY: I think you really need - and we'll be discussing this more and more, the strategy of what the overall package looks like, but I think we have to be really careful. I've already voiced my apprehension over the last thing we voted on, so I think if we go for the term limits too, it's going to be way too controversial, but that's myfeeling. HIGASHI: We're not here to worry about if it's controversial or not. We want to put things on the ballot that maybe people will be interested. We're not pushing it. RAY: Okay, but, I think we want to put together a package that is digestible and has a chance for success. That's part of the strategy. HIGASHI: As long as we separate it so it doesn't effect another issue. Term limits is a separate issue, and they vote on that. If we start to tie it into other, like at - large, then it may be more complicated. RAY: Gary, did you have something to say? YOSHIYAMA: For clarification, we're talking term limits for the Council, I assume. RAY: We don't have a motion on the floor so - YOSHIYAMA: No, but in our discussion, all the comments I heard relates to the - HERKES: Oh no. I'm talking term limits overall. YOSHIYAMA: So it's overall, okay. HERKES: You looked at me, so I'm just going to say I don't like term limits. HIGASHI: What's the Prosecutor? 20