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they're still in office, would be effected by this. That means all those six, when this would take place, presumably in 2002, none of those six could run for at -large seats under the present term limits, so that's - HERKES: Let's pass it. Sorry, I couldn't resist. RAY: Which does seem contrary to the - so anyhow, I'm just bringing that up. So that just points out the six people, presumably, in terms of their experience and what they could contribute, all six would be precluded from running for a four-year term, and presumably, those people, if they've been elected, and could get elected, are the six people you'd most want to be elected, I would think. MARTIN: able to win. But we have only three positions. Only three of them would be RAY: I understand. Sue. IRVINE: Lexington Charter does not seem to address this problem, either the transition or whether the term limits apply from the single member districts to the at -large. They just seem to be separate in here, and it doesn't address what we're worrying about. • RAY: It would be interesting to see if they are treated as separate offices, and how that works in other. - I'd be interested. Daryl. KUROZAWA: There's actually one other option. If you don't want to mess with the term limits, the other option would be that an at -large be run at six years,but they would have to step down in two years. We're just saying that if they know they have an eight-year limit, they can run after their second term of their two-year term. RAY: Yes. We want to make this as simple as possible, so the harder it is to understand, the more confusing it is in the ballot booth, and the more chances are that people are just going to throw up their hands and just, kind of, give up and mark it willy nilly, which probably, most people, on most of these things, do anyway. Roland. HIGASHI: So, where are we going to begin with the draft? MARTIN: I thought I made a motion. YOSHIYAMA: It died lack of a second. HIGASHI: I didn't hear any motion. RAY: I thought George had made a motion to - 25