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Hawaiian Home lands, Mr. Wurdeman. Plain and simple, they're not. Why are this Charter put in their jurisdiction on those lands in the Charter? I mean, why are you doing it? That's our complaint. That's how simple it is. You don't have the authority. You're not an administrator of that Act. You have no authority, but you come and enforce it. That's as simple as that. Your Charter allows it. Article 1-1. The law of the land. You control this whole island, Hawaiian Homes and everything. That's what it means. You can't do that. HIGASHI: Mr. Jim. JIM: Yes. HIGASHI: If you were to propose an Amendment to the Charter, what would the words be? JIM: That's the sensible -est question I've heard yet. Thank you very much. I believe that, in our opinion, and I hate to use this word, but we have to educate the people, and that's you. Clearly, that it's somehow government is hiding their responsibility and the promise to the Hawaiian people, they're separate. So, if that's so, then you should clearly put it in your Charter, Article dash one, there's a separation restrictions of land in this state, within the State of Hawaii, and incorporate it into the County, and that is Hawaiian Home lands, based on the Hawaii Constitution, • Article 12. Nothing withstanding in the Hawaiian Constitution against the provision of Hawaiian Home lands - as simple as that. It says, one sentence, in other words, from Article 1 up to 11 and from 12 up, you have no standings over those. You made a promise. You made a compact. You don't have no standings, but you come and enforce, take taxes, take money, divert the money, divert the water, use our water. Come over there and suppress us in our water. You're the body here. You are the body that's going to make this County to understand that you are restricted to go on Hawaiian Home lands. You are the bodies. Nobody else. HIGASHI: Mr. Jim, I respect both of you, and your writing, and I know you did a lot of appeals in other cases. Maybe you can just draft some language for us so that we can understand it more clearly, and a final paragraph, or whatever, is going to be presented. JIM: If this body requests our assistance, we are here to work with the people. We are not here to condemn them. We will sue them, if .we have to do that, and which we are. I am filing a case right now dealing with (indiscernible). And I'll tell you the truth, unless what this body can help, that County Council shouldn't be paying for policemans that punish and cheat and violate. You shouldn't. You're taxpayers all shouldn't be paying it. I have coming up this filing. They pay the Police Department millions of dollars. This body stops all that. Right in this room, stop all that. Stops all that taxpayers money paying for nothing. Right in this body.