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• JIM: We're not tribe. We're stockholders. KAHAWAIOLA'A: They said we're not tribes, so when people get an understanding of tribes, and try to integrate that to us, we're not tribes. So that's where I rest my case, as a Native Hawaiian. You have to understand Hawaiians and then you can turn back to tribes, but we're not tribes, and we're not here to go on the warpath. We just believe your language in the Charter just makes it so Hawaiians get nothing to do. We just got to do it. Reason is because the word is public safety. The example is if we call 911 at night - Trust me, I asked that same question seven years ago of the Chief of Police and Wurdeman. His answer was this. If you call, we're going to come, just as anybody. It's not the County Charter that's protecting me. It's the United States Constitution that's protecting me. You see, that's why he's going to come. That's what he told me. This Charter is not the reason. There's ways to go get - Department of Hawaiian going to pay you guys to come, send your policemen over there. Pay you guys to maintain the road. Come pay for the fire protection on Hawaiian Home lands. That's what they used to do, but it never come out of the Charter that says automatically we can do what we like on Hawaiian Home and you guys belong us. That's the problem Hawaiians have. We have an identity and just refuse, right now, at this particular, the new millennium - I just hate to go until the year 2022 thinking that am I a Native Hawaiian, or am I a person, or I belong to the public. This Constitution, that you all swore to uphold, says this, and I will leave you with this message, obviously, in this state there's three different classes of people because the Constitution says, right in the beginning, the state and it's people will uphold the Hawaiian race, and obviously there's three people. JIM: And you're not. Thank you. KAHAWAIOLA'A: Thank you very much. RAY: Okay, thank you. I think if we could get something in writing, and have that more part of the public record - JIM: If you desire to do that, and your body, we'd be glad to. We'll write something up and we can give our opinion. RAY: Yes, I think that would be a more complete way to deal with this. JIM: And you've got to understand, it's just an opinion that we believe. And we can give you some of the background. HIGASHI: Yes, I was going to say if you could just give us something short and then background. JIM: Okay. Yes. 14