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RAY: Any more question or comments in regard to the nonpartisan <br />elections? I encourage everybody to take notes and make sure we all understand <br />these, and help me, remind me, to bring out these points. As much as we can bring out <br />at the public hearings, I think, will be real helpful. <br />HERKES: You don't want us tolook dumb? <br />RAY: I just want to answer as many questions as we can up front. And <br />by the way, the order of these, Chris wanted me to make it real clear, and make it clear <br />at the public hearings, that this is just preliminary listing, so this is not necessarily how <br />things will appear, in this order, or whatever. <br />Okay, so the Second - Council to include the at -large seats. So, does everybody <br />understand this one-time exception? I got some phone calls on that so I've explained it. <br />Basically, the 4 two-year terms kicked in in 1996, so should this pass, it would take <br />effect in 2002, and what we're suggesting is that there would be a one-time exception <br />that anybody that were in office then, and all the present people will have served 6 <br />years by then on their term limits, anyone would be allowed to run for an at -large seat. <br />So, if they did win an at -large seat, they would be able to be in office for 10 years vs. 8. <br />MARTIN: Or possibly longer, because some people are still in office that was <br />preceding that date. <br />RAY: Right, yes, like Mr. Arakaki, who has already been in office - But <br />the term limit didn't start until '96 so he could have been in office 20 years total. <br />HERKES: I'd like us not to get distracted by that, and stay on the issue of <br />representation. The issue of how long term limits and people can run, and can they run <br />again, that will disappear in about two elections. <br />RAY: Still, it's a very important issue to people. I got more phone calls in <br />regard to that and specific Councilmen than anything else, so people do focus on that. <br />MARTIN: The term limit is stuck, and even me, I got a few calls. <br />RAY: So, 1 think we need to be able to understand that. <br />HIGASHI: Once you explain it to them, then they felt more comfortable? <br />RAY: I'm not sure, but at least they understood it. I don't think it's <br />anything so outrageous. <br />HERKES: It's not a deal breaker. <br />• <br />18 <br />