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• RAY: Yes, why don't we do that. Okay. Good idea. And then we'll do `others' after we go through the 19. So, on non-partisan elections. In my mind, the comments have been generally favorable, generally in support of, and generally non -controversial in terms of people being able to understand and then relate to this issue. IRVINE: I guess I'd have to differ with that somewhat. I mean, obviously, the Green Party is violently opposed to this because they feel that it is destroying the attempts of third parties to get started. I was interested in what Roger Evans, Republican, said up in Volcano, and that was that if it's truly non-partisan, we'd have to outlaw parties from contributing to these people because otherwise, the one party in our State which has been in power for many years, would finance the two top• candidates that would be on the ballot. I wondered if Chris had any comment. Is it possible to say a party cannot give money, or something, to a candidate? RAY: I would just look to the fact that close to 80% of all municipal governments in the whole United States are non-partisan. Every other jurisdiction in the State has voted non-partisan elections, so I don't think that's a particularly controversial issue. I couldn't even understand what Roger was talking about. IRVINE: You didn't understand what he - He said that if parties can give to candidates, then the one party that runs our State - he is a Republican. I think he always runs as a Republican - will provide money to two of their members to be the top candidates in the General Election, and I don't know whether other jurisdictions have, or whether it's even legal or anything, to say - RAY: limited. IRVINE: Well, it's not. The amount of money that the parties can give is Okay. RAY: And that was upheld in the last Governor's election, if you'll recall, when the Lingle campaign was talking about bringing in outside party money, so I don't think there's a way that the party can overly influence in terms of their contributions. It's my understanding that the Republican Party can only give the same limits as the individual. Isn't that right, Roland? HIGASHI: Right. IRVINE: Okay. HIGASHI: Well, I'm not sure, but as a practical matter, on the County elections, the parties don't give monies to the candidates. They support them in other ways, rallies and stuff like that. But if it's a non-partisan, they still can belong to a party but run as a non-partisan. They don't have a label. But, as far as giving money, it's not 17