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each one, talk about it, give our input, and then decide whether we're going to, because some of these will drop out probably, and some will stay. RAY: • huge shift in - Yes, there're only 7 people here tonight, so unless there's some HERKES: We are the 7. MARTIN: Yes, I was going to discuss that too. At some point in time, do you expect everybody to show up? IRVINE: Maybe 9. YUEN: Let me make a suggestion, and this is really out of the spirit of fairness to everybody on the Commission and also out of spirit of fairness to getting proposals passed that a majority of the Commission may be in favor of. I would suggest that, at some point soon, the final up or down vote be scheduled on all the amendments, and that the announcement of the meeting go out to all the Commission members that this is going to be it. And the reason is that you are going to need, as we discussed before, 6 votes in favor of a measure for it to go on the ballot, and if you take a vote tonight on something, for example, and it turns out 5 to 2 in favor, I don't think it's really fair to say well, we killed it, at that point. But if you have a meeting that everybody has had ample forewarning of, rather than just continually voting on things meeting after meeting and hoping that enough people show up to pass it, the fair thing • to do is to let everybody know that if they care about getting something on the ballot that they better show up for a particular meeting, and if the votes are not there then it doesn't pass. • MARTIN: Question, Mr. Chair. , In that venue, as what Chris just indicated, and this is purely hypothetical, but is it possible to get a proxy vote from another Commissioner? YUEN: No. HERKES: I'm going to give you proxy votes if you do it on the 29th. I'm going to give you a lot of trouble too. MARTIN: No. The answer's no. YUEN: No. MARTIN: Okay. RAY: We have a meeting scheduled April 29th. MARTIN: I'll be on the mainland, but that's okay, no problem. Take all the 19