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• • you can understand because what I heard one Councilman say was this. 'Well, we've been doing it and we're going to continue to do it. We go on the property. They haven't done anything so there's no problem, we can continue to do it, right or wrong.' Again, I'm going to remind you. People do things wrong for so long they believe it's right. We need to address it. It was an opportunity for us, as Native Hawaiians, to come forward to address this within your Charter. Your Charter was the goal, the book, that says this is where all the laws are. This is the reason we came before you. It was an opportunity. We can come only once every ten years. This is the reason we're here. However, I must say for the record, at times we were treated wonderful. But there were times that's less than suspect and myself, as a Native Hawaiian, in where we say about I hear everybody talk about share the Aloha spirit. Sometimes it's very hard as a Hawaiian to share that Aloha spirit. When we left — the last moment that we left here we were handed that letter. Apologies notwithstanding, take us seriously. We're not here playing games. I'm not here to play games. I got other things to do. But I got to come here to make sure that my future which was just born a week ago, my granddaughter, has something to look forward to even if she's stuck on Hawaiian Homes. So, that's all I have to say to you and I hope that if you believe that I'm angry — If I've offended anybody, really that's not my purpose. My purpose is just to come forward, share with you the information that we had, and answer forthright, straight out, to the letter from your counsel because it was my understanding two previous meetings from here was that Mr. Yuen works for you; not you work for Mr. Yuen. So I needed to make that clear. Again, I thank you very much for allowing me the opportunity to bring forward maybe frustration but if you've ever been to Hawaiian Homes Commission meeting and heard Commission sit there, Hawaiian Homes Commission take a lot of crap, so I'm sorry. JIM: My testimony's very short. My name is Harold Jim. The last meeting when I was here, I was very disturbed, and I'd like to share you my disturb. That I understand there's one of the Commissioners here and Susan expressed that she believes that you need the police force on Hawaiian Home lands. Let me share this with all the letters that we have. I believe — I'm a Native Hawaiian — you're encroaching on our land. I believe that you are acting outside of your capacity. I believe that you increase the encumbrance and violate your Constitution. I believe you violated Federal law, and I believe that you violated my rights. And there's a place that we can handle this. With respect to these Commissioners, read your Constitution. You're vulnerable. Thank you. KAHAWAIOLA'A: Thank you very much. RAY: And finally, Ginny Aste. PRANKE: Ginny had to go to the hospital. Her daughter's giving birth soon. She said she'd write in her testimony. RAY: Okay. That concludes our Statements from the Public. Moving on. Item number 4, Minutes Approval. We have minutes from April 29th as circulated. Do I have a motion to approve? 16