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RAY: You have those copies for us? <br />IRVINE: I have two copies here. <br />RAY: That's okay. We heard it once. Why don't you read it again. <br />IRVINE: Okay I will. I just did this a couple of hours ago. <br />'We the people of the County of Hawaii do hereby adopt this Charter of the County of Hawaii, <br />State of Hawaii. This Charter is adopted to provide the framework for governing our island in a <br />responsive and efficient manner. Our goal is to provide our elected and appointed officials <br />guidelines for governing in a manner which instills trust and confidence in the integrity of <br />government.' <br />It's because Marni handed me the one from last time and — <br />HERKES: It's all my fault. It's because Curtis said we should do this. <br />IRVINE: Then I thought we didn't need to mention — She had in there management <br />techniques and I thought that seemed a little bit manini for the Charter so — The business of <br />guidelines, I think, was also in your wording. I left your wording on my computer desk. <br />HERKES: I have it somewhere but it doesn't matter. <br />• RAY: What's the suggestion in regard to guidelines? <br />IRVINE: Mr. Tyler thought that — A Charter is a framework. It's not just guidelines. <br />SANTANGELO: It's law. <br />IRVINE: It's law. <br />ALONZO: Shall. <br />IRVINE: On the other hand, you can't mandate trust and confidence and the <br />integrity of government. You can't mandate integrity so it's hard to say we shall be. <br />• <br />HERKES: Would it help, Mr. Ray, if I talked about the ethics because some of that <br />wording comes out of the ethics wording? <br />IRVINE: <br />HERKES: <br />And Maui Charter has a Preamble. <br />Well, but their Preamble's not very good either. I read it. <br />IRVINE: That's where 'We the people of the County of Hawaii' and the business <br />about the County of Hawaii and State of Hawaii, which we may not need to be that formal. I <br />don't know what our attorney would say. I think John Ray had mentioned very early on <br />21 <br />