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• this county very long, certainly not enough to say that I've been through the history here or anything but I do know the structure of what is a municipal corporation which would be the county government and if we continue to have that power struggle that goes on between elected officials, there will continue to be a significant log jam. I think that if we had a structure that said we elect nine County Council people, that we have a Managing Director who is accountable to someone which is the County Council then we could create a lot more efficiency in government and get a lot more bang for our buck. It's a very much well accepted way to go about county government. I do this professionally but it also happens to have become a habit of mine, whatever, but other rural places, Wyoming, Kansas, other places that I know of, it just always remains the same. County structures usually aren't large enough to carry their own separate elected Executive Department and the issue is accountability. And the other thing that I would like to talk about, I guess I have a whole list here but when the County talks about creating new commissions and you say you're going to create a Fire Commission, I just would ask you to really look at what those commissions do that are separate from what already is being done. Every time we create a bureaucratic body, every time we create a new layer of bureaucracy, we are withdrawing money from services to the people because the pie is the same size and if you continue to divide it up into smaller pieces, everyone loses just a little bit. And my questions have to do with - In the County Charter, where is the Mass Transit Department located? Under what area? Anybody know? RAY: It's not. LAWSON: It's not? Okay. That's my point. ? What Mass Transit? LAWSON: Well, this is a separate issue and I think that some people - Mass Transit is what the County is naming their Department of Transportation and they call it Mass Transit. We are stuck in, here on this side of the island anyway and I'm not sure about Hilo, with what's called a commuter mode of transportation so that keeps this county from applying for or being even eligible for extra Federal funding like para -transit money which would transport people with disabilities or the elderly because right now we have coordinated services. We have money going to a non profit and I can see you are getting anxious so it's just that I think transportation -- something needs to be done. I'm not sure it belongs in the auspices of this commission. With that I'II close my remarks and thank you very much. RAY: Okay. Any questions? George? •