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• If you choose by pockets of population, you might have 30 people on the Commission basically. • BOYD: You know, you're right and I recognize that and I don't know the answer to that. KUROZAWA: And actually, in some ways, I think what you're doing is what, part of the answer to it is having a set number, a finite number of Commissioners and having people like yourself come and inform us of what's really going on. Having 30 Commissioners may not help our knowledge pool basically but let me just say, if you've thought about the numbers it would involve. RAY: Marni. HERKES: I want to continue that line a little bit. The Waimea Water Round Table is a group of interested - RAY: Mr. Boyd participates. He's intimately familiar. HERKES: Okay. Now, that to me is the advisory group for the Water Commission on the Waimea area and they don't have to take the advice of the Water Round Table but they would be well advised to take it and I think that that's probably - is that the kind of thing that you'd like to see in Ka'u or you'd like to see in Kohala? BOYD: That sounds like a - I attend this thing and I like it because it brings adversarial people to the table and they can lay out their viewpoints and how they feel about things. They can do that and I think that's a good start. That would be good but it's in Waimea and I think some of your most knowledgeable water people are from this area. I'm not saying that Ka'u people, or something, or Puna are a bunch of dummies. I don't mean that at all but you need to have somebody out there to organize and put this together. This was put together by David Tarnas and John. To my knowledge, John Ray put this Waimea Water Round Table and they have Steve Bowles who is a hydrologist and he's heavily into the knowledge of what's going on out here in this area. I don't know how you'd match that down in Kona, South Kona or Puna or in those areas. HERKES: Don't give them a water well and they're going to have one. RAY: Okay, good. Steve. Mr. Bess. BESS: I'm a little confused. You would like the Commission Members to either be elected or appointed. Now, assuming we go the appointment route, there is no 15