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IRVINE: I appreciate your input on that but for somebody to go through all the reading and whatnot that we have in front of us for possibly coming to a meeting every once in a while and then not having really been in on the back and forth at the meetings, I think would be very difficult to step in and make good decisions. OLSON: They're going to be supplied with the minutes of the meetings and I mean, if you take on the job, you take on the job. If there's no comers, you're not going to get an alternate, right? IRVINE: Yes. OLSON: I mean, it's entirely up to the willingness of a person to volunteer their time in community service to the community, to take on that responsibility in the interest of expediting the government's business. If nobody steps forward, they're not willing to take it on. I mean you're not forcing anyone to do the job. MARTIN: I have one more question, I think on the same lines as far as members in a Commission and/or Charter. I believe I heard you make mention that the Mayor, under your proposal, would appoint the Chair of that Commission and/or Charter? OLSON: That's correct. MARTIN: Commission and/or Charter, or Board. OLSON: Board or Commission, yes. MARTIN: As is present, we were all appointed and amongst us, we decided who the Chair was going to be. OLSON: Right. MARTIN: But you'd rather have the Mayor decide who the Chair's going to be before the Commission and/or Board is formalized? OLSON: I think that that would be necessary in order to have it conform, I think, because basically under the current system, the Mayor appoints all Boards and Commission Members. So he, at that point, would be only appointing a single member to a Board or Commission. MARTIN: He makes recommendations and then the Council approves or disapproves of the body in its present form. OLSON: Well, in some cases. In some cases, not. Some of the Boards, the Councils simply review. I mean, it's advise and consent. It doesn't say in the Charter 10